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Barrel thickness and pressures
I found this on ShotgunWorld, if this is correct and it sounds logical, "thin" barrel(s) if it is 6 inches beyond the chamber are probably more of a dent hazard than safety hazard.
Following is the best explanation of pressure and velocity versus length in a shotgun barrel that has ever been posted here. Almost all shotgun powder burns within the first 2 inches of the chamber. A typical fast burning powder will burn in the first 3/4 inch of the chamber. This is where maximum chamber pressure is attained. A typical fast burning powder like Red Dot might give a chamber pressure with a certain load of about 10,000 psi at that point. This is why a chamber is very thick on a shotgun barrel back at the chamber and gradually becomes thinner as it gets further from the chamber. After that first 3/4 inch, the pressure and tempurature starts reducing. When the shot has travelled twice as far, then the already burned powder which is now gas has twice as much space available and the pressure therefore drops to 1/2 what it was at 3/4 inch travel. So when the shot has traveled 1 1/2 inches the pressure drops to 5,000 psi if it was at 10,000 when the shot had traveled 3/4 inch and was at max chamber pressure. Likewise when the shot travels twice as far again, to 3 inches the pressure drops to half again. So when the shot has traveled 3 inches the pressure is about 2500 psi. This can be carried out on down the barrel and the pressure keep reducing by half as the shot travel doubles onward down the barrel. Here is a table giving shot travel vs pressure. inches:pressure 3/4 : 10,000 1 1/2 : 5,000 3 : 2,500 6 : 1,250 12 : 675 24 : 338 So as you can see as the shot travels further down the barrel the pressure reduces. Since the pressure is very high early on, the shot accelerates rapidly early on. With 10,000 psi back initially it is accelerating very fast. Once it gets out to 24 inches though the pressure is only 338 psi, so the shot is accelerating very little after that point. |
very interesting. who was the author? Was there any mention of the variations from this example when using the slower burning powders?
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Makes sense to me.
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Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Hopefully, some of our experts on here will chime in and verify this.
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My experience tells me that the relationship with pressure and time in a highly dynamic event like combustion is almost never linear. I would need to study it further but that is just a first impression. This could just be a linear approximation, which there is nothing wrong with.
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Here are two pressure charts from ‘Powder Pressures at Different Parts of the Gun Barrel’ in the book ‘Sporting Guns and Gunpowder’, published by ‘The Field’ in London in 1897. Pressure drop looks pretty linear to me and seems to verify the post I found in SW.
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would this explain why quality damascus barrels can seem to handle the pressure of low power smokless loads?
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After about 6 inches from the breech the graph line seems to support the law of physics that states "an object in motion tends to stay in motion." but the high pressure in the first 2 inches is obviously the result of getting that "object" moving from a dead standstill.
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Quality Damascus such as used for Parker and other major concerns of the period are stronger than most think. Sherman Bell demonstrated his in this works for the Double Gun Journal.
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