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RJ Jose 10-22-2009 09:30 PM

Miller single trigger
 
Hi everyone, I've been a member of the board for a short time, but I've been reading and learning for several years. I own several Parker's, all 16 ga, the fever has not spread to other gauges yet but I feel tempted to expand my horizons - no cure for Parker flu.
My question is, does any one have any info on the Miller single trigger? I have a "O" frame 16 that I'm trying to mold into the ultimate grouse gun. Don't worry, the barrels have been cut to 26" from 28", leaving open chokes. Someone has fitted a Trojan stock on it with homemade engraving and bondo. I have a period correct "O" frame stock to fit and I thought while I was at it, I would convert to the single trigger, something I'm used to and like on my grouse guns. The trouble I'm having, is that I cannot find hardly any info on the internet as to history, fitment, availability, etc. I know Turnbull use to own the co. in the '90,s but no info since. I,ve noticed many doubles fitted with this from European shotguns to the American classics. Are they one size fits all - hard to believe, does frame size make a difference? What is a fair price if I find one at a gun show? Who is the Miller Trigger guru?

Bill Murphy 10-22-2009 09:43 PM

Simple answer: If you find a Parker with a Miller trigger and it works and you like the gun, buy it. Of course, the same thing applies to a Parker with any trigger, double or single. If it works and you like the gun, buy it. If you are talking about fitting a Miller trigger to an existing gun, forget it.

Dean Romig 10-23-2009 10:07 AM

What Bill means by saying "forget it" is that IF you can find an expert smith with loads of Miller trigger conversion experience it will cost you a minimum of $2K and that is the simple fact of the matter.

Harry Collins 10-23-2009 10:26 AM

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RJ,

I just inherited a 16 gauge VH with a miller trigger. It needed a lot of work so I sent it to Del Grego. In speaking with them I learned that Miller Triggers are going for about $2 to $2.5K. Del Grego use to spply sears for the conversion,but ran short and had to stop. The reason for the new sears is because they are bent. You might require a new stock to accomidate the trigger. I like double triggers and would have converted this one back, but then I would be way out of my price range.

Harry

Richard Flanders 10-23-2009 10:26 AM

ie: you can buy a decent Parker grouse gun for less than the cost of converting your 16ga.

Don Kaas 10-23-2009 10:43 AM

Turnbull advertises on the Gunshop BBS that he still offers Miller conversion for $1250. If thats what you want for a cut barrel VH grouse gun then that's what it costs. IMHO, the Miller is the finest aftermarket single trigger ever produced. At the moment, I have them on my Purdey pigeon gun, my Parker D hammer Titanic barreled pigeon gun, my Ithaca NID 10 gauge Magnum (factory original). I have probably owned about a dozen or more on Remington 32s, Winchester Model 21s, Foxes, Westley Richards and atleast 3 other Parkers. In fact, my very first Parker was a steel barreled 12g PHE on a #3 frame with a Miller trigger. That one was not a grouse gun! I am also lucky that my gunsmith builds his own Miller style triggers when the mood moves him so we do it "in house" so repairs or adjustments are not problematic. He does not solicit such work however...

I do agree with Richard, however, that there are ways to a single trigger Parker "grouse gun" that may be cheaper and quicker than a conversion, like trade or sale of it into an existing single trigger gun.

Larry Frey 10-23-2009 12:57 PM

To me the ultimate grouse gun would have two triggers with the right barrel open and the left barrel tight. I’ve had several guns in 20, 16, and 12 gage ordered by hunters in the northeast (presumably grouse hunters) which were ordered in just that way. My current favorite upland gun is a 6# 4oz 26" 12 gage DHE ordered IC/Full (.003/.028). I have the exact same gun in a 16 gage O frame at 6#s even that I shot very well for several seasons until one day I notice it was cast for a lefty. I have lost confidence and now rarely shoot it. That’s now the one I let the wife use. She will never notice.:D

Don Kaas 10-23-2009 01:27 PM

My "grouse gun" is my late uncle's 16 gauge 0 frame ball grip 26" DHE delivered to Portland, ME in 1912 with LH cast on. Two triggers, choked .005/.015, weighing 5 14...all of its life in NH until it went south with me a few years ago. But, I guess it doesn't matter what our grouse guns are, it only matters what "RJ Jose" wants.

Dean Romig 10-23-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Frey (Post 6047)
I have lost confidence and now rarely shoot it. That’s now the one I let the wife use. She will never notice.:D


Printed and saved for future blackmailing purposes. :bigbye:

Brad Bachelder 10-23-2009 02:11 PM

We have miller,parker single triggers and sears in stock. The conversion is not a big deal and totally reliable. Let me know if we can help.


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