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Sam Hershfield 02-27-2012 06:52 PM

Variations on "V" grade?
 
What are the distinguishing marks that determine whether a Trojan is a plain "V", a "VH", or "VHE" (Ejectors?)?

Thanks

Sam Hershfield

Rick Losey 02-27-2012 07:03 PM

a Trojan is a grade of its own

completely separate from the "V"'s

Check out the grades link from the home page for photos

Sam Hershfield 02-27-2012 08:02 PM

Thanks but they don't seem to be clear enough to me. And the Parker Gun administrator said I should ask the forums.

Sam

Mike Shepherd 02-27-2012 08:16 PM

The Trojan has a snap on forend. The VH(E)s have a lever release forend.

The Trojan action is sculpted differently than the other grades. They left more metal on the Trojan action.

The V has slightly more engraving.

Those are the differences I know.

Best,

Mike

Rick Losey 02-27-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hershfield (Post 63609)
Thanks but they don't seem to be clear enough to me. And the Parker Gun administrator said I should ask the forums.

Sam

fair enough -

this thread has a very good pictures of a V grade

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6440

and here
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6219


page 2 of this thread has some good Trojan pictures

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...=trojan&page=2

Dean Romig 02-27-2012 09:36 PM

The top rib on a Trojan is roll-stamped with "TROJAN STEEL" and a VH or VHE is roll-stamped with "VULCAN STEEL".

The early Trojans, up to the early to mid 1920's, had a rounded rib extension which was eliminated in the later production while the V's had the distinctive "doll's head" rib extension.

The Trojan did not have a hard rubber grip cap and the buttplate was a very simple affair with only the mid section having a series of non-slip lines across it while the V's were the lowest grade (Grade-0) to have the hard rubber dog's head butt plate (DHBP).

The Trojan had absolutely no engraving other than the "PARKER BROS." engraved on each side of the frame while the V's had that feature plus the 'graver walk' all around the sides of the frame as well as a couple of very small flourishes of engraving in strategic spots.

The Trojan, aside from lacking the Deely style of forend latching system also lacked the steel forend tip which was recessed into the wood and held in place with a screw on VH and above grades.

The Trojan was not even considered to be a 'graded' Parker and was simply an entry level utilitarian gun. The grades of hammerless Parkers began with the VH as the Grade-0 and went up from there to the Grade-8 A1-S and then to the Grade-9 Invincible.

Sam Hershfield 02-28-2012 10:24 AM

V versus VH?
 
So if I understand you, there was no V only grade, just VH? If I'm wrong, what's the difference between them?

Thanks for your help.

Sam

Fred Preston 02-28-2012 10:34 AM

Trojan barrel flats are stamped "OV" for the "grade".

Chuck Bishop 02-28-2012 10:51 AM

Sam,

You can think of it like this. The V stands for the grade. It was only made in the hammerless version, hence VH (H standing for hammerless and just an extractor model) and if you wanted ejectors it would be a VHE (the E standing for ejectors.)

The same applies for all the higher grades of hammerless models, the first letter is the grade, followed by the H, and if ejectors, followed by the E.

Sam Hershfield 02-28-2012 11:14 AM

So, I feel like and idiot and am still unclear...my gun only has a V but it's hammerless but has no H and no ejectors. SN is 170026. What am I missing?


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