Ithica classic doubles 4E 20ga
 

Found a nice lightly used one, Dt-PG-BT 3800.00 Would this be a good price and are these guns as good and dependible as the repro parkers?

Ken,
Great price and great gun!! Just be sure its not a Beschi. If your not interested in its purchase I would be.
Bob Jurewicz

Hi BOB How would I know...are the ICD guns marked as sutch?

Ken,
Ithaca Classic Doubles and Victor New Yorlk should appear in a circle ring on the botton of the receiver. Beschi guns have this area xxed out. Beschi guns are only found in the early serial number range of 470---. Guns with the 471--- numbers were not involved. The short story is that ICD rejected parts were used by Beschi to build counterfit guns. I've looked at many Beschis and their workmanship is far inferior to ICD and they have high frequency of malfunction. If close inspection shows a "good" Beschi, and there are some, value is about $2500.
Bob Jurewicz

Thanks Bob...the SN is 470015 has the little bird in the cercle. The ring looks to be XXX out and does not have any wording on it at all.....I have it on hold at WLM, I will inform them of the new info and pass on it...BIG thanks , This was very informative..a good drill to learn from...and I did not loose any cash!!!! I will keep a eye out for one thats real....

Bob, at some time in the past, I printed a post telling exactly how to identify good and bad ICD guns. I haven't reread it for a while. Are there any 470 guns that are great guns? Are all 471 guns acceptable? I sold ICDs from the beginning to the end, but the serial number mystery is greek to me.

Bill,
I have 2 ICD's in the 470--- range and 1 in the 471---. The engraving in the real 470 ICD's is much better, in my opinion, than the 471 era. Fit and finish is comparable. Componet quality is best with the 471s.
The real ICDs are all great guns and very undervalued.
Bob Jurewicz
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/P1260082.jpg

Also just remembered, a friend and fellow ICD fan Tom M, has 2 threads on the shootingsportsman.com site showcasing his 16 and 28 ICDs.
Bob Jurewicz

http://bbs.shootingsportsman.com/sho...7-ICD-28-gauge
http://bbs.shootingsportsman.com/sho...0-ICD-16-gauge

The ICD guns in the 471 serial range are great guns. I have owned several and they have all performed flawlessly. My main ICD is a 4E 16ga and 20ga two barrel/two forearm set with my initials in gold on the trigger guard. I picked out the wood when Steven was making them. I love the gun and have shot it literally thousands of times without any concerns.

In my opinion, these guns are the best bargain for a hand made/hand engraved/hand checkered American made gun you can buy on the market today.