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Bill Anderson 12-31-2011 03:00 PM

Caution: Parker CHE 16 Ga not as it should be!!
 
I would like to give a heads up, or a caution, on Parker CHE 16 gauge listed on Nevada Auction (Proxibid), Jan 1 as lot #199. After a conversation with the owner, as listed in the DelGrego letter and looking at the pictures I have found what looks to be substituted (non-Parker) barrels on this shotgun. There is no barrel address or barrel steel type on the rib. The owner insists it is a Parker barrel, but I have included a picture of the barrel flats https://www.proxibid.com/AuctionImag...6873/199-9.jpg. which tells the real story. This Parker is listed as a straight stock with 28" barrels in the serialization book and now it is being sold as a pistol grip with 26" barrels.
You be the judge.

Thought someone might want to know.

Bill

Mike Shepherd 12-31-2011 04:35 PM

Here is a link to the item:

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...16421#topoflot

Bill Murphy 12-31-2011 04:43 PM

Is there any stamping on the side of the lug? We need good rib pictures to tell you what you have there. They have some characteristics of Remington barrels, but no repair codes and the serial number stamp is a bit sloppy. The rib will tell the tale. The stock appears to be a Del Grego job. What does the letter say? If they are Remington barrels, the different length is no mystery.

Bruce Day 12-31-2011 07:46 PM

Should not Rem barrels have the Overload Proved stamp on the flats? I have a C 16 with replacement barrels and it does.
Still looking for a replacement set of good 1 frame damascus ejector 16's to bring it back to originality. 125 thou SN.

Bill Murphy 01-01-2012 10:21 AM

Bruce, until we see the rib and the left side of the lug, we can't make any intelligent determination. Yes, I think it should have the Overload stamps, but I don't have a lot of Remington barrels to compare. I have never seen a Remington barrel with serial number stamps that bad. Some of the replacement barrel people in the sixties tried to imitate Parker markings but seldom did a good job. Lefever is another possibility. Let's see those pictures.

Bill Anderson 01-01-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 58606)
Bruce, until we see the rib and the left side of the lug, we can't make any intelligent determination. Yes, I think it should have the Overload stamps, but I don't have a lot of Remington barrels to compare. I have never seen a Remington barrel with serial number stamps that bad. Some of the replacement barrel people in the sixties tried to imitate Parker markings but seldom did a good job. Lefever is another possibility. Let's see those pictures.

There are no pictures of the rib or barrel lug in the auction listing, but I was told on the phone by the owner that there is no stamping on rib at all, just matting from muzzle to breech.

Bill

Jeff Kuss 01-01-2012 01:27 PM

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Here is a picture of my remington barrels that were put on a 16 ga. damascus gun. The serial number isn not on the side of the lug. It doesn't have the inscription on the rib either.

Mike Shepherd 01-01-2012 02:08 PM

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This is the picture from the ProxiBid auction:

Bill Anderson 01-01-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Shepherd (Post 58615)
This is the picture from the ProxiBid auction:

With this sloppy job of adding barrel serial number stamping (obviously changed by a beginner) and stock changed from straight stock to PG with checkered butt, as shown in DelGrego letter
http://www.proxibid.com/AuctionImage...873/199-13.jpg,

I think it's foolish to bid even at current price of $3888 with preminum.

Bill

David Long 01-01-2012 04:59 PM

I think i will bid and see what happens


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