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James Misner 09-23-2009 11:56 AM

3" magnum load
 
Is it safe to shoot a 3" magnum load in a Parker Dbl Brrl.?

Don Kaas 09-23-2009 12:14 PM

Simple general answer, NO! Not unless it is one of the very rare late 1930's marked Parkers on the side of the barrel lug "12 gauge for 3" shells " or a modern Parker Repro marked 3". Heavy #3 frame 12 gauge fluid steel Parkers can be used with 3" Magnum ammunition if properly chambered but I would leave this to the "experts". Use of very heavy loads in these old guns is not best practice.

James Misner 09-23-2009 12:20 PM

THANKS FOR THE REPLY, THE 3" load fits,but wasn't sure.I have a 1924 gunmade with trojan steel. THANKS again. JIM

Dean Romig 09-23-2009 01:42 PM

You could very easily damage your Trojan beyond repair . . . or worse.

Don Kaas 09-23-2009 01:43 PM

The Trojan would have originally had 2 5/8" chambers and really is not suitable nor safe for either shooting a 3" Magnum load as is nor having the chambers lengthened. If you want an old SxS to shoot 3" loads from the M21 Winchester 3" Duck, some L.C. Smith Long Range/Wildfowls or the rarer Fox HE and Ithaca NID 12g 3" Magnum would be MUCH better choices. Good Luck

Andrew Thompson 09-23-2009 09:54 PM

Good luck is right. Been looking for an HE or long range for 4 years and they are proud of those 21's. On another note, 3 inch shells can be brutal to the shoulder. I have had good luck with 2 3/4 3 dram loads. I still have a gunsmith check my guns every year to make sure everything is closing and staying closed when it should.

Destry L. Hoffard 09-24-2009 01:12 PM

Andrew,

Good to see another duck hunter on the forum.

A Smith Long Range or Wildfowl usually isn't too hard to find, a Fox HE on the other hand is a rare bird.

Destry

Don Kaas 09-25-2009 09:00 AM

I actually handled a late Remington Parker 12g VHE (238,???) factory marked for 3" shells yesterday at the Vintagers. It was a straight grip, slim factory beavertail, single trigger with a Hawkins pad. It was built on a 1 1/2 frame with 30" mod and full barrels. This is a very rare gun and you would not get much change from $11k if you purchased it. I almost bought it but came away with a 36" #6 frame DH 8 gauge with unique waterfowl factory engraving for about the same money instead. DH grade 8 bores aren't the most common of Parkers but I am pretty sure I am correct in saying a fully option 3" Magnum 12 gauge is the rarer bird.

Pete Lester 09-25-2009 09:31 AM

What is the earliest known production of a factory Parker 3" Magnum 12 ga ie. specifically built for the 3" magnum, no swamp in the barrels at the breech and stamped for 3" shells?

Don Kaas 09-25-2009 10:41 AM

I do not know but I doubt it was before 1934 unless a special order and after 1919 information on special orders is scarce. I have examined two "12 ga for 3" shells" guns and both actually had slight swamping in the breech area forward of the chambers but without measuring wall thicknesses it was just a visual observation. The few "10ga for 3 1/2" shells" guns I have seen including Destry's GH which I see often are pretty "straight sided".


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