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Theodore LeDurt 08-26-2011 03:52 PM

Oh No! My Shells Won't Fit
 
Loaded up 14lb of ITX in Federal hulls with my MEC Sizemaster, only to find that the shells are to "thick", and won't allow the gun to shut. The same hulls from the factory do fit, so this caught me off guard, as the season opens next week.

Would appreciate suggestions to fix my problem. These are my first reloads in 25 years.

Carl Brandt 08-26-2011 04:35 PM

Are you reloading 2-7/8" 10ga. with SP-10 wads?

charlie cleveland 08-27-2011 08:46 AM

theo have you solved your problem with shells not fitting yet....these reloads you reloaded were they unfierd hulls or had they been fired before....if they have been fierd before maybe you need a good resizer... charlie

Chuck Bishop 08-27-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 49043)
theo have you solved your problem with shells not fitting yet....these reloads you reloaded were they unfierd hulls or had they been fired before....if they have been fierd before maybe you need a good resizer... charlie

I agree with Charlie. If factory ammo fits fine, than the empty hulls you are trying to reload were previously fired in an oversized chamber. You have 2 choices. Use factory shells until you have enough empties to reload or find a Mec Supersizer in 10ga. Size the hulls, then run them through the Sizemaster.

Once you have resized them the first time and keep using them in the same gun, you won't have to resize them again because they will fire form to your chamber.

Theodore LeDurt 08-27-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Brandt (Post 49022)
Are you reloading 2-7/8" 10ga. with SP-10 wads?

Actually, I'm reloading for 12 gauge. These are once fired hulls and the problem seems to be at the crimp. The shells must be a little bulged at that end as they will not drop into the chambers, but must be pushed.

Thanks for the help.

Pete Lester 08-27-2011 11:23 AM

It is hard to tell what is wrong without a picture or two. From what you describe I am guessing there was not enough room for the volume of the shot charge and the final station crimped/crushed the top of the shell and expanded the top of it outward in all directions. ITX is expensive so you will have pry them open and salvage at least the shot. When reloading you need about 3/8 to 1/2 inch from the top of the shot to the end of the wad fingers for it to close properly. When done right the crimps should look near factory.

Chuck Bishop 08-27-2011 12:03 PM

If you mean that your shell is flared at the end, something may be wrong with your final crimp station adjustment. I'm not familiar with single station Mec's but on the progressive loaders there is a final station which tapers the shell for easy loading into the gun.

My advice is to call Mec for help. They are experts at helping over the phone. Should be easy for you to fix it.

Good luck

Theodore LeDurt 08-27-2011 12:14 PM

Crazy thing is, the shells fit and shoot in my buddies Fox and LC Smith. I'm beginning to wonder if the 1906 might have shorter chambers than 2 3/4"? I took for granted that the chambers were 2 3/4 inch as that is the length of shell I have been using for clay. The gun has shipped to my gunsmith, so I guess he can check the chamber length when he receives it.

John Dallas 08-27-2011 05:56 PM

Theo - Remember that the 2 3/4" measurement is for fired shells. Unfired, they will measure closer to 2 1/2". At 2 1/2, they should fit in virtually any gun (except a 2 1/2" gun such as the British used to make.

John Farrell 09-01-2011 09:14 PM

You likely have a final crimp problem. If you don't have one, get a owner manual from MEC. You will find a section in there about your problem. When you are doing the final crimp you are bulging out the mouth of the loaded case. JF


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