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David Livesay 03-15-2026 03:18 PM

What if any choke options were available on a 12 ga. Trojan made in 1930
 
I have a Trojan 12 Ga. made in 1930, with 28 in. barrels. It was listed as having F/XF chokes. Was this standard for that gauge/length of barrel combo or were there other options? I don't have a proper gauge, but a new dime will just barely go into one barrel and will not go into the other barrel.

Drew Hause 03-15-2026 04:00 PM

David: this is a hardware store catalog page not long after the Trojan introduction in 1912. As the bottom states, you could have any 12g barrel length and choke combination your heart desired as long it was 28" M/F or 30" F/F ;)

https://photos.smugmug.com/US-Makers...%201912-XL.jpg

In the hard times of the depression, Parker Bros. would entertain custom barrel length and choke. I'd be interested in knowing when that 'flexibility' took place.

John B White 03-15-2026 06:03 PM

I have a 1930 Trojan 12 gauge with 28" barrels choked modified and full. Nearly 30 years of exemplary service in the field.

David Livesay 03-15-2026 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John B White (Post 446155)
I have a 1930 Trojan 12 gauge with 28" barrels choked modified and full. Nearly 30 years of exemplary service in the field.

I think that is the standard chokes for 28 inch barrels, but how common are
F/XF?

Mike Koneski 03-15-2026 07:04 PM

The XF probably was within the pattern parameters and was considered F at the factory.

Dave Noreen 03-15-2026 09:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
From the 1930 Parker Bros. catalog --

Attachment 140652

David Livesay 03-15-2026 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 446176)
From the 1930 Parker Bros. catalog --

Attachment 140652

So it could have been special ordered with Full and extra full?

Jerry Harlow 03-15-2026 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David Livesay (Post 446140)
I have a Trojan 12 Ga. made in 1930, with 28 in. barrels. It was listed as having F/XF chokes. Was this standard for that gauge/length of barrel combo or were there other options? I don't have a proper gauge, but a new dime will just barely go into one barrel and will not go into the other barrel.

If a dime goes in, it is almost assuredly modified. The unaltered 28" barreled Trojans I have are modified and full.

Donald F. Mills 03-15-2026 10:00 PM

I was taught by my father the dime method. As you describe it that would be mod and full. I have a VH that a dime fits the same way as your gun does and it is mod /full. It also letters that way. That gun was my first Parker and since then I have started using a bore gauge instead of a dime. It is not uncommon for vintage guns to be choked tighter than today’s standard. Case in point, my VH has .023 and .041 constrictions for its chokes which by today’s standards would improved modified and extra full. I would believe you gun is modified and full by the standard used when it was produced. I would bet the listing was just referencing modern standards.

David Livesay 03-15-2026 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow (Post 446183)
If a dime goes in, it is almost assuredly modified. The unaltered 28" barreled Trojans I have are modified and full.

I thought if a dime just barely went in it was full choked. Guess I learned something new today.


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