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George Lander 06-14-2011 05:34 PM

ANSLEY FOX'S PARKER DH(E)?
 
Does anyone here know the whereabouts of Ansley's Parker DH(E) Pigeon Gun ? A Thread was started over on the Fox Forum and no one there seems to know where it now resides or whether he ever shot a Fox gun in competition.

Best Regards, George

Dave Suponski 06-14-2011 08:15 PM

George, I read that thread with interest over on the Fox site. We would need to know the appox. time that Ansley would have aquired the gun.

Dean Romig 06-14-2011 08:41 PM

Do we know if he bought it new or as a second hand gun?

I would expect Dave Noreen could shed some light on this subject, though he has probably weighed-in with information over on the Fox site.

George Lander 06-14-2011 11:20 PM

Dave & Dean: According to Mike McIntosh's book "A.H. Fox, The Finest Gun In The World" pg. 44: "By the spring of 1900, Ansley Fox had broken away from his partners in the Fox Gun Company of Baltimore, and the parting was apparently rancerous enough that he refused to shoot publically with the guns that they'd built. When he went to New York to shoot in the Grand American Handicap, Ansley Fox took along a 7 1/2 pound Parker 12-gauge and a few cases of Trap Brand shells loaded with 3 1/2 drams of E.C. powder and an ounce and a quarter of No. 7 1/2 shot. The game was 14,000 live pigeons."

Best Regards, George

Bill Murphy 06-15-2011 08:57 AM

Thanks for asking the question, George. Not much discussion about this gun over the years. Maybe now we will get some information.

Patrick Lien 06-15-2011 11:03 AM

Can you guys explain how you know it was a DH(E) with 30" barrels? Is the serial # known?

thanks

Patrick

Bill Murphy 06-15-2011 12:34 PM

Fair question, Patrick. The answer is "I have done my homework." Like my friend Dave Noreen, I have spent thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dollars doing research for no remuneration. I have always given it away. I have given some hints on the Fox forum. Send me your serial numbers and I will tell you (I promise) if you have Ansley's gun. Of course, I will try to purchase the gun, but suspect I will not be successful. I am probably not the only one who knows the number. If the PGCA is anything like the Fox organization, the BOD will trump me because of their access to the records. Ed was right about the "Black Hole of Curatorship", except that he didn't mention that the BOD of any collector organization would be exempt from that "Black Hole". Ed and I have both avoided being put in the compromising position of board member so we could not be accused of unfair access to research material for personal gain. As I have mentioned for a decade, my research files will be available to PGCA as soon as the PGCA research files are available to its members. Comments??

John Davis 06-15-2011 11:35 PM

If anyone is interested, I wrote an article on Ansley H. Fox and his Parker gun which appeared in the Winter 2005 issue of Parker Pages. It was based on articles I found in the American Field. It doesn't mention the serial no. or grade of the gun because I didn't know it then and I don't know it now. John Davis

George Lander 06-15-2011 11:42 PM

John: I believe a number of us here would be interested. I'll try to find that article.

Best Regards, George

John Davis 06-16-2011 06:30 AM

George, if I can find it on my computer at the office I'll post it on here. John


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