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Chris Pope 02-15-2024 01:00 PM

Gun Evaluation Checklist (for beginners like me)
 
I am still a rookie Parker fan and am about to purchase my 3rd Parker. I have always found checklists useful but understand many do not. Even with a checklist there are certain things that I don’t know what I’m looking at, in which case, I have been extremely fortunate to get some great advice from members here. So thank you PGCA for that!

Below is the draft checklist for beginners like me. I searched some previous threads (2014 and 2016) for help putting this together. I would welcome thoughts, edits, corrections and improvements. The intent is simply to have a guide for new folks to get started when looking over a possible Parker purchase. Thanks.

1. Does the gun fit?
2. Verify visible serial numbers
3. Look-up Serial Numbers- match subject shotgun?
4. Order factory letter from PGCA
5. Condition of screws
6. Butt Plate original? Fit?
7. Proper barrel finish/condition, dents, pits
8. Bore condition
9. Muzzle- keels, barrels cut?
10. Ribs, rib joints- loose? ring barrels (consider B.Dudley “oil in the crack of the rib test”)
11. Proper wood and wood finish
12. Checkering- mullered borders
13. Any cracks/chips/wood repairs
14. Butt plate original
15. Cap original
16. Metal finish and engraving
17. Top Lever operation and position
18. Lock up tight and on-face, with/without forend
19. Ejectors operate
20. Forend tight, latch operates
21. Trigger pull/Firing pins operate/trigger guard
22. Safety operates
23. Barrel wall thickness
24. Measure chambers
25. Chokes

Dean Romig 02-15-2024 03:58 PM

Putting those points in order of importance could help to eliminate many or most of the of them.

For instance, bore condition, wall thickness, chamber length originality, are of prime importance and if found not to be up to acceptability, would eliminate wasting time on the other points.





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Chris Pope 02-15-2024 06:23 PM

Thank you Dean- really appreciate the feedback.

John Allen 02-15-2024 06:46 PM

Chris, Your checklist is a good idea for new or experienced Parker buyers. You might want to organize it by components. Here is what to look for in the barrels,receiver,wood,etc. Another item that is critical to values is to determine to the best of your ability if the gun has original finish,restored,or just plain old redone. There is a huge difference in value between those 3 conditions.

Garry L Gordon 02-15-2024 06:46 PM

It’s a great and thorough list, but you forgot two important considerations: Can I afford it…and, will I stay married if I buy it. :)

scott kittredge 02-16-2024 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 405515)
It’s a great and thorough list, but you forgot two important considerations: Can I afford it…and, will I stay married if I buy it. :)

the married part for sure:)

Chris Pope 02-16-2024 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 405515)
It’s a great and thorough list, but you forgot two important considerations: Can I afford it…and, will I stay married if I buy it. :)

Well I always thought the consensus amongst PGCA members was that affordability was a very low priority somewhere behind is there a tiny wear mark on the stock. BUT, that staying married bit should probably be at the top of the list. Reminds me of a humor piece written by one of the famous outdoor writers (McManus, Hill MacQuarrie??) who suggested that one should always leave a couple slots open in the gun cabinet so your spouse never really gets a handle on the inventory. And once it gets to having only one empty slot left then you sneak a new cabinet/safe into the house...wish I could remember who wrote that piece.

Chris Pope 02-16-2024 08:04 AM

DRAFT 2 (based on input) And the format did not copy

1. Does the gun fit?
2. Verify visible serial numbers
3. Look-up Serial Numbers- description match subject shotgun?
4. Original finish, or restored, or redone?
5. Provenance documentation
6. Order factory letter from PGCA
7. Barrel Components:
A. Bore condition
B. Wall thickness
C. Chamber length
D. Measure choke
E. Proper barrel finish/condition, dents, pits
F. Muzzle- keels, barrels cut?
G. Ribs, rib joints- loose? ring barrels (consider B.Dudley “oil in the crack of the rib test”)
8. Wood:
A. Proper wood and wood finish
B. Any cracks/chips/wood repairs
C. Checkering- mullered borders
D. Forend tight, latch operates
9. Metal and Receiver:
A. Metal finish and engraving
B. Lock up tight and on-face, with/without forend
C. Condition of screws
D. Top Lever operation and position
E. Ejectors operate
10. Miscellaneous
A. Butt Plate original? Fit?
B. Cap original
C. Trigger pull/Firing pins operate/trigger guard
D. Safety operates

Garry L Gordon 02-16-2024 08:11 AM

I’m “appropriating” your excellent list. Thanks for working this up.

As for value, my credo has always been, buy high…and never sell. That way, no one knows you’re a crappy negotiator. :)


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