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Austin J Hawthorne Jr. 01-28-2024 09:18 AM

Damascus strength
 
To anyone's knowledge have there ever been tests done to determine the relative strength of the various types of damascus?

Dylan Rhodes 01-28-2024 09:52 AM

have a click around here, lots of good info. Although i'm not sure that the direct answer to your question is located here.

https://sites.google.com/a/damascusk...e.com/www/home

Austin J Hawthorne Jr. 01-28-2024 11:56 AM

Thanks Dylan,
The closest info I found there is the relative price for the various forms of damascus but not their strength. Alot of variables involved concerning my question, the biggest of which would be the wall thickness of the tested samples. The search goes on!

Milt Fitterman 01-28-2024 03:06 PM

Contact Dr. Drew on Doublegunshop. I am sure he will be happy to help. He has all the answers you are looking for and where to find them. He has done lots of metallurgic testing including blown up barrels and he can identify pretty much all the different designs.

Dave Noreen 01-28-2024 03:35 PM

They just stated over there that Drew is at the mission in Guatemala right now.

todd allen 01-28-2024 08:19 PM

Track down a copy of the Double Gun Journal with the Sherman Bell article called "Finding Out For Myself"
That is a definitive source of info on Damascus barrel strength.

Mike Koneski 01-30-2024 12:01 PM

Posted in another thread in the General Discussions forum-

Summer 1999 Finding Out for Myself 12 gauge Pressure Testing
Winter 1999 Finding Out for Myself Black Powder vs Smokeless Pressure Tests
Autumn 2000 Finding Out for Myself III The Forgotten Tens (Lead Shot)
Spring 2001 Finding Out for Myself IV The Forgotten Tens (Bismuth Shot)
Winter 2001 Finding Out for Myself V Long Shells In Short Chambers
Summer 2002 Finding Out for Myself VI Smokeless vs Black
Spring 2003 Addendum Finding Out for Myself Parts III & IV
Updated the list Spring 2004 Finding Out for Myself VII Express Rifle Pressure Variables
Winter 2004 Finding Out for Myself VIII Black Powder Rifle Tests
Autumn 2005 Finding Out for Myself IX Fluid Steel, Stronger Than Damascus?
Autumn 2005 Finding Out for Myself Part X Black Powder vs Nitro (Rifle) Pressure Testing
Autumn 2006 Finding Out for Myself Part XI Wall-Hanger Rendezvous- “The Proof” is In The Shooting
Winter 2006 Finding Out for Myself Part XII Wall-Hanger Rendezvous & The Slow Powder Myth
Spring 2007 Finding Out for Myself Part XIII Wall-Hanger Rendezvous-Special Tests
Summer 2008 Finding Out for Myself Part XIV Wall Hanger Rendezvous- Damascus, Remington & Parker
Autumn 2008 Finding Out for Myself Part XV Bulk(y) Powder In Express Rifles
Autumn 2009 Finding Out for Myself Part XVI The Last Rendezvous-Bottom-Of-The-Barrel Wall Hangers
Summer 2011 Finding Out for Myself Part XVII Express Rifle Case Fillers

Mike Koneski 01-30-2024 12:03 PM

From Dr. Drew

Ken's got 'em.
These are the Destructive Test articles

Vol 10, Issue 2, Summer 1999, Part 1, p. 9
Vol 10, Issue 4, Winter 1999, p. 21 - Destructive testing of Parker GH Damascus
Vol 16, Issue 2, Summer 2005 - Destructive testing of Parker VH Vulcan Steel

I don't have Ken's Autumn 2005 Finding Out for Myself IX Fluid Steel, Stronger Than Damascus? listed. Is that the Parker VH test?

Vol 17, Issue 3, Autumn 2006, p. 12 - Destructive testing 8 Damascus doubles
Vol 17, Issue 4, Winter 2006, p. 28 - Destructive testing 7 Damascus
Vol 18, Issue 1, Spring 2007 -
Destructive testing on a Damascus barrel with thinned walls; calculated by O.D. - I.D. and not measured.
Destructive testing using various obstructions, including a 20g shell.
Destructive testing using a shell loaded with 3 1/4 Drams by volume or 56 grains of Unique (similar to “Infallible”) with 1 1/4 oz. shot. The chamber burst with the first shot.

Vol 19, Issue 2, Summer 2008, p. 18 - Destructive testing 1 Damascus, 6 Twist
Vol 20, Issue 3, Autumn 2009, p. 108 - Destructive testing 1 Damascus, 5 Twist “Bottom-Of-The-Barrel Wall-Hangers”

Mike Koneski 01-30-2024 12:05 PM

More good reasons to hang on to all of our DGJ issues. I certainly don't remember all the info accumulated in the DGJ articles so it's good to be able to put your hands on the hard copies.

Dean Romig 01-30-2024 12:35 PM

But the three volumes of the DGJ Index and Reader should answer any question regarding authors, subject matter/title and volume/issue/date of where to find it.

Daniel has said Vol. III will be hitting our mailboxes in late March 2024.




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