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Jim Akins 02-15-2011 10:20 PM

Jostam pad advice needed
 
Has anybody refurbished one of these pads? According to the PGCA letter this pad is probably the original one that came on the gun, the red rubber parts look OK, the sponge parts are collapsed on each end and shifted to the right at the heel. After cleaning up the triggerplate screws the pad is the next in line. Gun was made in 1919-20, original stock finish, barrel blue and 50-60 % casecolor. Any ideas on other types of pads available at that time?

Jim A.

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David Hamilton 02-15-2011 10:43 PM

The pad looks usable. You might remove and preserve the old pad and put a modern replacement on for use. David

Bruce Day 02-15-2011 11:03 PM

I am not aware of any process that would restore the synthetic rubber volitile compounds in a pad once they have gassed out. These old Jostam sponge pads are uncommon. Galazan has a Jostam Hy Gun pad that might be a nice replacement.

I think it might have been original. I have one like that and kept the pad when I took it off.

By the way, nice D.

Dave Noreen 02-16-2011 12:14 AM

The sponge rubber pad was patented by S.A. Huntley, Patent No. 1,222,291, granted Apr. 10, 1917, and assigned to Huntley Manufacturing Company of Omaha, Nebraska, a corporation of Nebraska. They manufactured the pad briefly before WW-I. I have not been able to determin exactly when Jostam acquired the rights and began manufacturing the Jostam Sponge Rubber Pad. The patent application for the Jostam Hy-Gun Pad, was filed May 21, 1926, and Patent No. 1,642,835 was granted Sept. 20, 1927. So, a Hy-Gun wouldn't be age appropriate to the gun in quesion. An original Silvers, or a Jostam Anti-Flinch would be age appropriate to the gun. Jostam continued manufacturing their line of pads into at least 1949, maybe later. NOS Jostam pads show up on ebay fromtime to time.

Bill Murphy 02-16-2011 08:18 AM

Jim, I would leave that pad in place and determine by trial and error how fast it will deteriorate into pieces. The pad appears to be a nailed in place pad which cannot be removed and replaced conveniently. I think I recognize the gun as one that was offered on the internet. If it is the gun I think it is, you have one fine gun.

Jim Akins 02-16-2011 01:54 PM

Bill, I am sure it is the one you were thinking about. I probably paid too much for it but it is only money, but I've been doing this long enough to know that guns like this one don't show up too often. I plan on proceeding carefully on the pad, it is starting to separate from the base plate. The black sponge is still flexible and the red parts are good. I am fairly certain that it is the original pad that came on the gun as the only patent date on it is 1917. Mark gave me the original owners name and a photo of him and his son with a string of pheasants from about 1930.

Jim A.

Bill Murphy 02-16-2011 03:21 PM

Jim, do you think it is a nailed on pad? Are you familiar with the nailed on pad? If it is, you'll never get it back on if you take it off. You can always nail on another one like it, but you and I will know it is not the original one.

Jim Akins 02-16-2011 04:42 PM

Bill pretty sure it is a nail on pad, my plan IF I attempt it would be to leave the original red plate on the gun and replace the black sponge pieces. the red parts are intact and I believe they could be straightened using a heat source and a flat surface. On the original pads the base and the other parts were separate and glued on to the base plate, I wonder what type of glue was used. At any rate I am going to do some research before trying any thing.

Bruce Day 02-16-2011 05:03 PM

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I tried.
I failed.

If you find a method that works, let me know.

Frank Cronin 02-16-2011 09:29 PM

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If this helps, below are some pictures of a NOS two ply sponge Jostam recoil pad with original box and paper envelope with tacks inside never opened. There are some loose tacks that were in the box when I bought it so you have an idea what you may be getting into. The box does not have any instructions though.


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