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Reggie Bishop 01-29-2022 04:14 PM

The Last Parkers
 
Has anyone had any experience with Remington Parkers right at the end of production? Guns in the 242xxx serial number range. I was looking at a CHE in this range. The barrel rib had no markings. Typical nice Remington wood. Correct engraving. Correct checkering. But the serial number on the barrel flats and forearm iron were over stamped. Is it reasonable to think that these guns were put together with parts in inventory that may have been seralized already?

I wouldn’t buy such a gun but just thought it was interesting.

Dean Romig 01-29-2022 04:38 PM

Hard to say Reggie.

We know, of course, that after Remington started making their own barrels and ribs, they no longer stamped a legend or barrel steel type on the top rib, and that they stamped the serial number on the barrel flat rather than on the side of the lug as had been previously done.

But overstamped... who knows?

And how was it overstamped, one digit?... the whole serial number?





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Bill Murphy 01-29-2022 05:35 PM

We need pictures of the stamps to guess what was going on.

Patrick Lien 01-30-2022 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop (Post 354509)
Has anyone had any experience with Remington Parkers right at the end of production? Guns in the 242xxx serial number range. I was looking at a CHE in this range. The barrel rib had no markings. Typical nice Remington wood. Correct engraving. Correct checkering. But the serial number on the barrel flats and forearm iron were over stamped. Is it reasonable to think that these guns were put together with parts in inventory that may have been seralized already?

I wouldn’t buy such a gun but just thought it was interesting.

Reggie,
I have owned six 242xxx guns. The serial # stamps on my guns were just normal Remington stamps for the time period.

PML

Bill Murphy 01-30-2022 03:22 AM

Reggie, if you tell us the serial number, we may be able to tell you whether you have one of the cleanup guns or maybe one of the guns that were to be completed later.

Reggie Bishop 01-30-2022 06:36 AM

I don’t have the gun nor do I have pics. #242079 was the number if my memory serves me correct.

Dave Noreen 01-30-2022 10:16 AM

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I saw that too, and of course old Researcher saved pictures!! It appears to me that the 079 is stamped over 257.

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The barrel flat has a repair coded XK3 X = December K = 1941. Two things that caught my attention was not a production date code present and no choke markings I'd expect at that late date.

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Dean Romig 01-30-2022 10:50 AM

On the flats of 242079 there is a stamp I have never seen before nor seen mentioned in TPS pgs. 579 - 583 right next to the "box with a slash" (as described in TPS pg. 582) is a 'Star of David'. I wonder what that signifies... possibly something to do with date of manufacture? Likely not because Remington already had a well established dating system.






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Reggie Bishop 01-30-2022 11:00 AM

A little more information. A dealer friend told me about a year ago that he knew of a CHE 20 gauge, 26”, beaver tail, single trigger gun that he hoped to get one day. He said that it had a grouse in flight on trigger plate. He said it was a very late gun with no choke markings but that it was choked SK/SK.

The subject gun in this thread is configured exactly the same way with a grouse in flight on trigger plate. But it’s a 16 gauge.

Interesting stuff. The dealer stated he had never seen a grouse in flight engraved on trigger plate of a Parker.

Dave Noreen 01-30-2022 12:47 PM

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A possibility is that the inspector with the star of David stamp replaced the inspector with the sun stamp near the end. I also find the star of David stamp on 242301 and 242353.

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What the authors called a semi-horseshoe on page 582 may have been a poorly struck example of this --

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