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Milton C Starr 08-22-2020 05:41 PM

10 gauge RCC brass
 
Think I may order some of them to play with
The brass looks pretty clean and well machined .
I thought of reloading brass shells as it wouldnt take up as much space .

I have read loading smokeless in all brass hulls can have ignition problems ?
They only do orders of 50 cases , but I suppose 50 all brass shotshells would last a lifetime .

Harry Collins 08-23-2020 06:22 AM

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I purchased 50 10 gauge from Ballard Brass. Their production was taken over by Rocky Mountain Cartridge. Unfortunately, mine were stamped wrong and were actually 12 gauge. I can't use them for either as they are bulged. I wouldn't let this scare you off because I had the same thought as you. I loved them until the bulges became apparent and I plan to replace them at some point.

Milton C Starr 08-23-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Collins (Post 310274)
I purchased 50 10 gauge from Ballard Brass. Their production was taken over by Rocky Mountain Cartridge. Unfortunately, mine were stamped wrong and were actually 12 gauge. I can't use them for either as they are bulged. I wouldn't let this scare you off because I had the same thought as you. I loved them until the bulges became apparent and I plan to replace them at some point.

That picture is what I had in mind getting a 10 ga hammer gun and some brass cases . Ive been reading alot of contradictory information when it comes to reloading brass shotshells .


This probably seems nit picky but the head stamps on the RCC cases to me look alot nicer than what ive seen on RMC cases .

Harry Collins 08-23-2020 01:13 PM

My turned brass hulls took 209 primers. I loaded them on a MEC Jr with SP-10 wads then hot glued the over shot card. I was using Sherman Bell data with IMR 7625. That powder is unavailable so whatever a good low pressure powder you want will work.

Eric Johanen 08-23-2020 03:22 PM

Harry, if the brass hulls are in otherwise good condition see if you can find a 12 gauge sizer die. Possibly from a cowboy die set Lyman or RCBS. I found mine in a box on a gun show table many years ago. Solid brass cylinder with a rim cut. Lube the hull and drive in with a raw hard mallet and push out with a dowel. i have one hammer gun dedicated to these shells and even so they benefit from a resizing every now and then. They last a very long time and may need to be annealed occasionally. When the mouths start to split the can be trimmed and continue in use. I only use black powder with these loads and the perform very well.

Milton C Starr 08-23-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Johanen (Post 310307)
Harry, if the brass hulls are in otherwise good condition see if you can find a 12 gauge sizer die. Possibly from a cowboy die set Lyman or RCBS. I found mine in a box on a gun show table many years ago. Solid brass cylinder with a rim cut. Lube the hull and drive in with a raw hard mallet and push out with a dowel. i have one hammer gun dedicated to these shells and even so they benefit from a resizing every now and then. They last a very long time and may need to be annealed occasionally. When the mouths start to split the can be trimmed and continue in use. I only use black powder with these loads and the perform very well.

I dont know how this applies to shotshells but ive read with blackpowder rifle cartridges you want a good gas seal to keep fouling from blowing back in the action as cleaning the bore is easier then taking the action apart after every shoot . Is that a problem when reloading black powder in brass shotgun cases ?

What brand of bp do you use ? seems alot of guys really like the swiss stuff .

Milton C Starr 08-23-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Collins (Post 310296)
My turned brass hulls took 209 primers. I loaded them on a MEC Jr with SP-10 wads then hot glued the over shot card. I was using Sherman Bell data with IMR 7625. That powder is unavailable so whatever a good low pressure powder you want will work.

I kind of want to try fiber wads , Ive read that brass hulls usually have less pressure compared to modern plastic hulls as they have no base wad .

I seen a bluedot load for the 10 gauge it was 8500 psi , I wonder in a brass hull and with fiber wads what the psi would drop to . I suppose I could load those and have them pressure tested .

Harry Collins 08-24-2020 09:55 AM

Yes! A good seal is important. The first time I fired these shells it was with Black Powder and the action looked like there was a fire inside with the all the smoke coming out of it after each shot. The smaller gauge fire formed itself to the action. I shot smokeless powder after that and had no problems until after I had shot them a number of times and the bulge became apparent. I just looked through all the load data I have for turned brass cases and nitro powder. All loads were with SP10 wads.

Milton C Starr 08-24-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Collins (Post 310367)
Yes! A good seal is important. The first time I fired these shells it was with Black Powder and the action looked like there was a fire inside with the all the smoke coming out of it after each shot. The smaller gauge fire formed itself to the action. I shot smokeless powder after that and had no problems until after I had shot them a number of times and the bulge became apparent. I just looked through all the load data I have for turned brass cases and nitro powder. All loads were with SP10 wads.

From my understanding these milled/turned cases are not as elastic as drawn brass cases , RCC does offer making cases from chamber cast from your specific gun .

The lightest load Ive seen for Bluedot was 1 5/8 oz it was 7200 psi but I was looking at primers and reloading data it seems you could lower that a bit with a different primer . I was reading a book on reloading brass shotshells and it had reloading data for smokeless RMC 12 gauge loads but didnt have any pressures listed .

Is there any books that has data for 10 gauge brass cases ?

Harry Collins 08-25-2020 09:22 AM

Most of the data I have is from 2005 Ballistic Products plus some from Tom Armburst's Ballistic Research. There may be some newer information out there. I'll try to look.


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