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MIKE FISHER 09-08-2019 03:07 PM

Small steel shot in a VHE
 
Please feel free to direct me to some old threads, because I realize this has no doubt been covered before:
Wife just got a very nice Rem 20 ga VHE and wants to shoot nontoxic. Have bismuth for her in *6 and larger, for grouse and pheasant, but she needs smaller for quail and snipe. Can't find anything smaller than 6 in bismuth and was wondering if a person would dare shoot #7 steel in this little VHE? It's marked modified and improved mod. We definitely don't want to damage this fine gun. Any thots or advice?

Thanks!

Bill Murphy 09-08-2019 03:11 PM

Modern steel 7 1/2 should be fine in a Remington VHE of the bores you mention. My opinion only.

MIKE FISHER 09-08-2019 03:19 PM

Thanks Bill. Understood and appreciated.

Mike

Brian Dudley 09-08-2019 03:20 PM

Why do you need non-tox for upland game? Are you hunting in one of the few states that banned lead?

MIKE FISHER 09-08-2019 03:27 PM

Well, excellent question... No, we're in Idaho and can do pretty much as we want, however, the wife is a wildlife toxicologist and no very enamored of lead. I'm an old "leader" myself, but I do run into riparian quail hunts were a teal or wood duck may be encountered at close range and steel gives you more options. That said, most of my shooting is lead.

Brian Dudley 09-08-2019 03:31 PM

If the chokes are more open in the gun, you would likely be ok. But personally, since you can use lead, I would personally not chance any damage by using steel.
I suggest either finding a suitable steel substitute for the gun, or tell her that using lead is the only option. OR, use a more modern gun suitable for steel.

MIKE FISHER 09-08-2019 04:01 PM

OK, that's what we wanted to know. Do NOT want to take a chance w/this gun. Thanks.
Mike

Garry L Gordon 09-08-2019 04:50 PM

Gun designed for steel, shoot steel. Gun not designed for steel, don't shoot steel. There will be no second guessing nor regret (the worst of emotions).

Drew Hause 09-08-2019 05:55 PM

A pre - WWI Parker “Vulcan” (courtesy of Ron Graham) barrel was AISI 1015.
A post - WWI Parker “Vulcan” barrel (courtesy of Dave Suponski) was AISI 1030.

Modern steel loads have a thick shot cup to protect the bores from scoring, but neither of those barrels were designed for steel.

MIKE FISHER 09-08-2019 06:17 PM

Makes sense - thx.


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