Low pressure shells
 

Was curious to see if I can generate a list of commercially available low pressure shells.
Unfortunately for me the only ones I know of are Winchesters Low Noise/Low Recoil. Aside from specialty loaders (RST, POLYWAD) are there any others? I saw RIO has a paper shell out the 1886 at 1100 to 1200fps, but not sure of the pressures.

I would not suppose that because the Winchester is low noise/velocity that it is also low pressure. Maybe they are and maybe not.

Kent makes a 2 1/2" low pressure load. The problem is finding them. Fiochi makes a 2 3/4" trainer load.

Ken

The Winchesters run about 6000 to 6500 some hate em, some love em, for me they work fine, just messy! Curous to see if there were any others out there. I heard there is a B&P shell on the market that has lower pressures but not quite sure what it was called.

low pressure
 

herters low recoil,from cabellas

Dont know what the pressures are in the Herters, so have not tried them in my 1875 WW Greener hammer gun damascus, I did shoot them out of my Fox pin gun and a light Ugartechea 12 and the recoil is light--but not as light as my 7/8oz reloads using either Red Dot or Win AA Light. Would love to be able to shoot the Herters Low Recoil thru my damascus guns to save time at the reloading bench with the Mec 600 jr, have a Cabelas within 10 miles of me.

Low recoil is not necessarily low pressure

WW Xtra Lite 1oz load is about 7400psi.

Loving to play "Damascus and Twist Roulette" I will shoot any 12 gauge off the shelf that is 1oz or less at 1200 fps or less. When I reload I keep it under 8000psi.

I am not sure about todays loads, but modest Italian shells as described above were kept at lower pressures out of deference to the many old guns still in use.

Harry

Thanks guys for your input, I did some digging and came across Dr Drew Hause's site with these:

Modern Factory 12g Target Load Pressures
FPS PSI
Factory reported
RST (2016)
12g
Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1125 4400
Falcon Lite 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1200 5400
Maxi Lite 2 1/2” 1 oz. 1125 5700
Premium Grade Pheasant 2 3/4” 1 1/4 oz. 1200 7800
16g
Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1100 4600
Best (2010 - replaced by Falcon) 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1125 7720
20g
Ultra Lite 2 1/2” 3/4 oz. 1100 6000
Falcon Lite 2 1/2” 7/8 oz. 1125 7200

Kent/Gamebore English Field 12g
http://www.firearmservice.com/shopsi...ml/page19.html
2 1/2” 1 oz. Traditional Paper 1295 6526
2 1/2” 1 oz. Pure Gold 1295 7832
2 1/2” White Gold XLR 21gm (3/4 oz.) 1250 7975
In 2018, Kent introduced the Elite Low Recoil-Training 12g, 2 1/2”,
3/4 oz., #8, at 1200 fps; product code #E122L20-8.

Rio 12g 2 3/4”
TLT28SUB 1 oz. 1050 6900
TLSK28 & TLT28 1 oz. 1210 7900

B&P 12g 2 3/4”
Competition One 24 gr. = about 7/8 oz. 1160 7252
Competition One 28 gr. = about 1 oz. 1160 8122
2016
http://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en...1/1/index.aspx
Convert BAR to PSI http://www.convertunits.com/from/bar/to/psi

Kent - Gamebore
Non-toxic 12g 2016
Bismuth 2 1/2” @ 1400 fps 1 1/16 oz. - 9800 psi; 1 1/8 oz. - 10,000 psi
http://gamebore.com/uk/cartridge/gam...mebore-Bismuth
Tungsten Impact 2 3/4” @ 1400 fps, 1 1/4 oz. - 9900 psi; 1 3/8 oz. - 11400
http://gamebore.com/uk/cartridge/game/12g-impact
Kent Elite 2018 http://kentgamebore.com/wp-content/u...talog-2018.pdf
2 1/2” 12g E122L20-8 Training Target 3/4 oz. at 1200 fps; 6700 psi
2 3/4” 12g E12L24-8 7/8 oz. at 1200 fps
http://www.huntstuff.com/products/Ke...0training.html


12g Independent testing
RST Falcon Lite 7/8 oz. 1214 5520
Estate Super Sport Competition Target 1 oz. 1192 8200
Winchester
(Note the Winchester AAHS 2-piece hull replaced the AA CF hull in 2004
and may have slightly higher pressures)
‘Low noise Low recoil’ 15/16 oz. AA12FL 980 6,200
Old AACF Xtra-Lite 1 oz. WAAL12 1,190 8,000
New AAHS Xtra-Lite Target 1 oz. AAL12 1,180 8,760
Old AA 3 Dr. Eq. 1 1/8 oz. Trap WW12AAP 1,200 9,600
Now listed as WAAM12
Super-Target 1 oz. TRGTL12 1,200 10,440
Super Sport Sporting Clays 1 1/8 oz. AASC12 1,360 11,660
Remington
Premier Nitro STS Sporting Clays 1 1/8 12NSC 1,320 10,160

12g Herters for Cabela’s 2016 by Cheddite, Italy
http://www.chedditeitaly.com/en/index.php
Field & Target 1 oz. 1290
Select Field Dove & Quail 1 oz. 1250
Target Low Recoil 1 oz. 1060 9,200 (tested)

A list of loads with shot and fps, but no pressures, including Hull, Eley, Lyalvale Express, Rio, Fiocchi, Gamebore & RC
http://www.justcartridges.com/cartridge-info/
Hull offers a “Subsonic (less than 1,126 fps) Very Low Recoil” 1 oz. 2 1/2” load.

Herters Low Recoil at 9200 PSI would be above my comfort level by a few thousand PSI.
Looks like I will stick to my reloads, although the BP 24 g loads would seem ok,