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Pete Lester 09-05-2010 04:01 PM

Nice Shot sticker shock
 
Loaded some 1 3/8 oz Nice shot (ecotungsten) BB load for 2 7/8" 10ga. Ran the reloading cost calculator on them...... $2.61 per shell or just over $65 per box of 25 :shock:

Oh well gonna be fun to hammer some Canada geese with them.

Bill Murphy 09-05-2010 07:59 PM

Use a gun with serious pits, shoot steel, be happy, have a gun with clean barrels when you get home.

charlie cleveland 09-05-2010 08:46 PM

bill you made a good statment by using the steel shotkeeps cost down.ive not noticed any damage to the old doubles that ive shot steel in...thanks charlie

Bill Murphy 09-27-2010 07:23 PM

Charlie, you're the first person who has ever acknowledged the idea of shooting steel in thick shot cups in old guns. It is just no big deal and will not damage a gun that has already been somewhat damaged with minor pits and corrosion. Just keep an eye on the choke area every time you clean the gun. Thanks, Charlie. Another thing that can be done is to use chamber inserts and shoot 12 gauge steel in 10 gauge guns. There is hardly any chance of damage at the muzzle with a 12 gauge load.

Bill Murphy 09-27-2010 07:24 PM

By the way, Pete, how much does that Nice Shot cost per pound?

Kurt Densmore 09-27-2010 10:49 PM

please confirm....
 
Pete, I have been loading a 1 1/4 oz of #2 bismuth load at about 1300 f/s (8000 psi) that is killer on big honkers. You could probably drop back the amount of shot and still have a formidable goose killer.

I had a 70 year old man tell me that during WWII one of the shotshell companies was having a hard time getting lead and was loading up a steel shot shotshell for hunting purposes...........they called it "chilled shot".....????

Old wives tale or true ??

Kurt

Robin Lewis 09-27-2010 10:53 PM

Lead pellets are classified by their alloy content. Antimony is the metal used to harden lead. Antimony is a brittle flaky, crystalline metal with a density of 6.697 grams/cc. Like lead, antimony is toxic. Lead, when alloyed with antimony, becomes a harder pellet. However, when more antimony that is added, the overall density of the pellet is reduced.

"Chilled" shot contains about 98% lead and about 0.5% to around 2% antimony.



Mark Ouellette 09-28-2010 07:27 AM

Gentlemen,

A very knowledgeable LC Smith collector shoots Hevi Shot #4's in a LC Smith Long Range 12 Gauge. The Long Range Smiths have 3" chambers and a slightly tapered bore ending with choke constrictions of .040+" Thus far his trusty duck gun has suffered no damage.

Since I have a few cases of 12 ga 3" Hevi Shot, I wonder how well those shells would shoot perform from a 10 bore gun using gauge reducers? The larger bore would reduce the pressure somewhat or at least down to the 10 gauge limit of 11,000 PSI. A problem may be encountered from those "welding slag" pellets slipping past the front of, or through the slit in the wad as it expands to fill the bore. Do you have any experiance using Hevi Shot and gauge reducers in a 10 gauge Damascus gun?

Thanks,
Mark

Bill Murphy 09-28-2010 10:19 AM

Apparently, steel shot damage is not caused by scraping in the bore. The damage is normally done in the choke area. The 12 gauge load in a 10 gauge bore and choke should eliminate that worry.

David Holes 09-28-2010 08:23 PM

I have not heard of a 10-12 guage reducer can someone enlighten me thanks


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