Half Frame Value
 

Since we see very few half frame Parkers offered for sale, most of us have no idea of their value above Parkers of identical features and condition with more common frames. What does a field used VHE or GHE half frame Parker sell for? How much premium is placed on the frame size?

Bill,
I'm sure some people (especially the seller) would put a premium on a gun with a half frame but for me frame size is about the last thing I think about when considering the purchase of a gun. That would also apply to O frame 16's, one frame 12's, etc. If I find a gun that I would like to buy but the seller is seeking a premium due to frame size I just keep looking.

To each his own...
There were a great many 0-frame sixteens and possibly even more 1-frame twelves but there were a scant few, by comparison, 1/2-frame twelves ever made. Most of them were as much as 1/2 lb. lighter than the equivalent gun on a 1 1/2-frame and very few were heavier, from what I've read.

Me? - I would place a premium on a 1/2-frame twelve over a 1 1/2-frame twelve, all other things being equal of course.

I know of a GHE 26" 1/2 frame gun that was redone by Del Grego. A very nice gun but redone non-the-less. The seller want's $10,000 for it. I think he will have it for a looong time. I would think the same gun in the same condition on a 1 1/2 frame would be worth about $4,000-$4,500?

I don't know enough to have ever wondered about this topic but tell me how rare is a 1 frame 12 ga? I have two AH's circa 1890-1891 that are 1 frame. One is a two barrel set and the other was sent back to Parker for an additional 12 set around 1898 and to Rem (late 30's?) for a 16 ga set (this set being steel and the other being damascus). Is it a big deal to have a 1 frame 12 ga?

Ray

Dean,
I think that the half frames rarity may result in some increased value on a high condition or perhaps high grade gun. Bill's example was a field used VHE or GHE for which the only extra value might be in weight reduction from zero to maybe a few ounces which to me dose not translate to many, if any $$$.

Larry, I agree with you on the minimal increase in value of a low grade, field used (only if that term translates to 'worn and in need of restoration').

Ray, the 1-frame twelve, like the 0-frame sixteen, was probably intended to be a game gun, generally for upland shooting as they are generally lighter in weight. There were a lot of them produced but when the 1 1/2-frame was introduced the 1-frame was, for all intents and purposes, pretty much dropped. The 1-frame twelve is desirable and certainly the higher grades like yours.... more desirable still.

Thanks, Dean. Best-Ray

Hi Guys ,I would like to add my two cents that no one else has mentioned ,But if I am correct aren't all of the 1/2 Frame guns ,only from the Remington era ,or am I wrong on this ,If I am correct ,I believe I have read where some would put a premium on the gun being from the Remington Era with or without the smaller frame size ? I really like the O Frame guns and if I find a nice 16 on the smaller frame , it gets my attention more so than the # 1 frame guns do ,also ,I have never had the opportunity to handle a 1/2 Frame ,but I would think they would be nice ! I have also read the 1/2 frame guns generally have nicer wood for the grade of the gun ,is this fact ? Russ

Speak of the devil. This DHE just showed up on GB. Seller states gun is original. Looks to be some non original stampings on the barrel flats and barrels. One appears to be a Remington repair code (Mar 1950 I think), perhaps Remington did the other stamps?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=180275049