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Josh Loewensteiner 12-10-2016 02:19 PM

Damascus "what's it?"
 
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What type of damascus pattern is this? What is the name of this pattern? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Bruce Day 12-10-2016 02:34 PM

Josh, I think its more a laminated composite rather than Damascus. Let's see what Drew says.

Drew Hause 12-10-2016 03:26 PM

I enhanced the image a bit

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../413008313.jpg

and believe they are the same as this 1878 Grade 4 Lifter and called "Lutticher Toncin"; a Herringbone variant

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../400526667.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../400518023.jpg

We've had this discussion off and on in the past regarding similar barrels which were labeled "Laminated Steel'

BTW: I'll have a table in Vegas near you Parker fellas and would be happy to 'read' patterns for anyone.

Drew Hause 12-10-2016 03:36 PM

"Gold towel guy's" Grade 5 top; Grade 4 bottom

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../403868671.jpg

So is it a Parker, and what grade please?

Dean Romig 12-10-2016 03:45 PM

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Definitely Laminated of some sort Josh - What make of gun is it on? What year of manufacture or if a Parker, serial number range?

If it is a Parker in the late 1870's - early 1880's look for a P stamped where the barrel steel is normally stamped.

However, it looks to me more like the Laminated Steel that Parker Bros imported beginning in the late 1880's into the late 1890's.







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Drew Hause 12-10-2016 03:57 PM

We've had this conversation ;)
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...?t=5520&page=2

Some of the images were moved here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/19406549

Remington's variant
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6679

Parker Laminated Steel
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1839

Dean Romig 12-10-2016 04:05 PM

So, the example Josh has pictured looks most like Greener's "Silver Steel."






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Drew Hause 12-10-2016 04:11 PM

This is Laminated Steel; Top: c. 1874 Lifter marked "Laminated Steel"; each tube is stamped 'L' ahead of the barrel flats.
Bottom: c. 1870s W&C Scott hammer gun.
Refinished by Brad Bachelder.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../389244643.jpg

This is Greener's "Silver Steel" which was a Laminated Steel variant

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../256132943.jpg

3 Iron with a definite 'rosette'

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../407276187.jpg

Josh Loewensteiner 12-10-2016 04:44 PM

Hi guys- the gun is an early C Grade Lefever.

Drew Hause 12-10-2016 04:49 PM

Thanks Josh. This is Morris Baker's C grade Lefever

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../315129166.jpg

It's a very similar pattern called "Corche"

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../315129162.jpg


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