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Tom Jay 08-30-2016 03:55 PM

Barrel work ???
 
My 1886 12 ga. top lever hammer is a 1 frame D grade 28" cyl/cyl. I've been ISO a second set of barrels with either fuller chokes or other gauge and came across a set that are 12 ga. 1 frame 30" grade 0 plain twist with a serial number not to far off from mine. Barrel muzzle is said to be slightly bent, but usable and needs slugging. Barrel is under $100. A couple of questions: 1) What gunsmith can be recommended to restore this barrel, i.e. slug, straighten, refinish? 2) If not the fuller choke that I want, could this barrel be re-sleeved to a 16 or 20 ga? 3) Am I wasting my money to pursue this idea? It would be good to hear your thoughts or from someone that has gone through a similar experience. Thanks.

Rick Losey 08-30-2016 08:50 PM

if you go as far as sleeving- you could likely buy a gun in the grades that wore twist tubes for what you will have in it

even fitting it to another gun, along with repairs and choke work would be cost prohibitive IMHO

and just curious -- why would you slug a shotgun barrel?

Tom Jay 08-30-2016 10:01 PM

Current owner says barrel should be slugged. I don't know much about slugging a barrel other than what I've read online. I'd want to get a gunsmith's point of view prior to doing any work. The $100 cost may be worth spending to get an estimate of work.

Dean Romig 08-30-2016 10:39 PM

'Slugged' is a new term for me - never heard it used before. What does it mean please?






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Tom Jay 08-30-2016 10:59 PM

Apparently it's a process of pushing a metal ball of same or slightly larger diameter through the barrel to smooth the inside. This process seems more widely used with pistols and rifles than shotguns. Personally, I don't know why you would do it on a shotgun.

Dean Romig 08-30-2016 11:02 PM

There are more precise (read: precision) methods of raising dents.





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John Campbell 08-31-2016 07:16 AM

As indicated, your extra barrel set could be a bargain, or a money pit. In any case, the man you should get the barrels evaluated by is Kirk Merrington. Check his prices before going in with both feet:

http://www.merringtongun.com

Rick Losey 08-31-2016 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 201376)
'Slugged' is a new term for me - never heard it used before. What does it mean please?

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slugging is a process used for rifle barrels - a bore diameter lead slug is made- and used with a lapping compound to clean up a rifles bore - because it mates to the grooves and lands it evens up a rough bore, and sometimes to polish them for accuracy

since the slug is poured from a lead alloy- which will deform to some extent when pushed against dents - i see no use for the process in a shotgun barrel

and if you "slugged" with a piece of hard metal of equal or larger bore diameter - its my opinion you would compound the damage

dents can be raised with a series of metal plugs starting with one at the most narrow spot working up to full bore- but you still push some material forward not straight back up, which IMHO is the best option

edgarspencer 08-31-2016 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Jay (Post 201372)
Current owner says barrel should be slugged.

Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Jay (Post 201372)
I don't know much about slugging a barrel other than what I've read online.

Really!

Kevin McCormack 08-31-2016 08:54 AM

Slugging is (was?) routinely used in finishing shotgun barrels for repeaters (single barrels). On a tour of the Ithaca factory years ago, I watched a lady operate a machine that forced a rotating lead slug spinning slowly on a shaft (literally, shaped exactly like a rifled slug) back and forth through the barrel the length of the bore. After two passes, she pulled the barrel out of its fixture and inspected it visually. She said the process helped to polish the bore as well as "move" (I assume by swaging) any tiny imperfections left by the 'Roto Forge."


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