"o" frame 16 production numbers
 

I was wondering how many O frame 16's were produced, and a breakdown as to grades also. Had a conversation with someone who said there were only a couple hundred made, and i said probably more like 2-3 thousand. I have 2 myself, a DHE and a GH.

Impossible to know for sure. And it was far more than s couple hundred.

I agree with Brian and will add my take as well. My guess is the number of 16ga's on an O-frame is probably in the thousands rather than the hundreds. I presently own four a VH, two GH's and a DH & have had a few more pass through my hands. I also see them listed for sale here & on the other internet sales sites on a fairly consistent basis.

My observations also find them to thin out as you go up in grade. I see fewer in DH and above. Then when you add ejectors from DH on up the selection seems to thin even more.

My own observation is that about half of the 16's made were 0 frame. They are not uncommon at all. Of course, I am discounting Trojans as they were all 1 frames. But finding a 16 in a 0 frame is very common.

I agree with Greg on the 50% estimate. I was thinking that when I posted my original reply.

Since all 16g. Trojans were on 1 frames, that grade cannot really be considered in the numbers. Since the Trojan became a best seller after it's introduction. But among other grades, I would guess about half is a good figure.

I will add the observation that nearly all of the 16g. guns that I have taken in for work to my shop are 0 frame guns. But that means little in the whole picture. It just tells me that more people may be buying them and putting money into them over their 1 frame counterpart.

Good point Brian. 0 frames are generally older and need service and are also the darlings of collectors. #1 frame 16s are normally later guns and don't need work. I'm guessing there are a few more 0 frames than 1 frames but not as pretty or as well preserved. Yes, we are not counting Trojans.

Did Parker manufacture half frames 16 gauge guns and what was the frame size of all half frames ?? Also--what was the standard chamber length on all gauges from 12 to 28 and the choke bored from stock to final delivery ?
Allan

There is an O frame 16 in the Amoskeag auction right now.

Brian, the numbers may be skewed geographically also. There may be more 1 frame 16s in the pheasant areas, like the midwest, and more 0 frame 16s in the Northeast, and other Grouse hunting areas.
I bought a nice 0 frame DH at Baltimore.

Interesting, that there could be more 0 frames in sections where more walking in needed for the birds you are hunting. A 6 pound 0 frame is much lighter load than a 7 1/2 2 frame 12 ga.