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Eric Estes 02-13-2016 10:36 AM

Another Old Lifter
 
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Parker 11009, an old 12 ga 1 frame lifter brought back to shooter status. I just got the 30" twist barrels back from Brad yesterday and they look great. The rest of the metal is decent and I will leave as is. It could probably use some new wood eventually. The stock was in 6 pieces and I acraglassed it back together as best I could. It was cut way short so I put a pad on it. Looking forward to shooting it. I hope the wood holds together.
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Rick Losey 02-13-2016 11:00 AM

wow--

looks great from here

Bruce Day 02-13-2016 11:32 AM

Those are Parker made twist barrels.

Eric Estes 02-13-2016 11:38 AM

That is very interesting Bruce, how can you tell?

And thank you for the Timberluxe recommendations you have posted. It was easy to work with and I will use it again. I used a bit of their stain too in an attempt to blend some of my epoxy/sawdust patches. May have gotten it a bit dark. Timberluxe is great stuff.

Bruce Day 02-13-2016 12:53 PM

Eric,
1. The gun SN is in the right range
2. The iron and steel ribbons look different than either London Stub Twist or London Twist
3. The barrels look like others that are accepted as Parker made, including one that I own.


Yes, I use only Timberluxe now. I find it easy to use, penetrates existing finishes, and is water resistant, unlike French polish which clouds in heavy moisture or rain. The stain needs to be thinned.

I just got a message from Dean who thinks these are outsourced tubes. Maybe we need to do a little more research into these early barrels and try to trace back what Parker made. I do know that these Parker twist tubes look different than others.

Dean Romig 02-13-2016 01:48 PM

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These are the things I look for in determining Parker Made barrels. They were made only in 1877, '78, and '79 according to Charles A. King in his deposition before the U.S. Senate. And were made by joining short (about 15-inch) segments of of tubes usually with distinct differences between the composite pattern on each segment. The only barrels I have seen with these identifiers have been Laminated Steel and so marked on the rib. And in my experience, they usually have a P stamped on the flat of the right barrel where we normally see the stamp of the barrel steel type. I know the Turnip Farmer has one without the P but everything else about his gun falls in line with the other identifiers.


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Dean Romig 02-13-2016 02:29 PM

Further, please read Ed Muderlak's Shooting Flying and the American Experience on page 173, at the bottom, there is a picture of Ira Paine's 16 bore with Parker-made Laminated Steel barrels. There is more discussion of Parker-made barrels in his chapter "American-Made Damascus Barrels" beginning on page 171 of this book.






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Paul Ehlers 02-14-2016 09:34 PM

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So Dean. In your opinion; Are these Parker made barrels?

Dean Romig 02-14-2016 09:46 PM

Yes Paul, in my opinion they are indeed. They appear to meet all of the 'requirements' of Parker-made barrels.





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john pulis 02-15-2016 08:11 AM

beautiful refinish Dean. will you bring this in April to Addiville?


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