shipping question
 

Do people without an FFL, (nondealers) have to use dealers to send guns if I sell you a gun can I ship it to you? Gun in qustion is 1892 parker, it is old enough a dealer could send it to you directly? Can he send it to me the 1892 parker? Thanx ch

Calvin,

I send shotguns (US Postal Service) and receive them without FFL to gunsmiths and stock makers It is my understanding that an FFL has to ship to an FFL or Curios and Rllics License.

Harry

Harry is correct...:)

So I could send you a shotgun ups without getting in trouble. ch

Yes, a pre-1899 gun is considered antique under federal law. I've received antique long guns via both UPS and USPS without any problem. (But if something ever goes wrong, I'm sure either entity would be an absolute pain in the *ss to deal with !)
I was once overcharge by UPS, and it quickly becaame clear to me that NOBODY that I spoke with/dealt with had ANY IDEA what their own rules/policies were ! I learned more in 10 minutes on their website than any of their people did via their training program.

It's sad that so many people don't know their own job, don't do it well, and/or plain just don't give a damn !

So - again - Calvin, the answer is "yes."

Calvin,

There have been horror stories involving UPS and guns. Most agree that USPS is the best bet on shipping shotguns. I ship here with them and as rural as we are I still have to wait for them to check their rules. It is OK to ship a shotgun and not ok to ship a pistol or rifle as they need to be shipped by an FFL. Be sure to take the barrels off the receiver when packing otherwise you will almost be guaranteed to have damage.

Harry

I have encountered what I view as an anti-gun culture at my local UPS depot. I have seen, heard or read of more damaged guns shipped via UPS. Of course maybe more are shipped by UPS, but personnally I use USPS.

I wonder why USPS balks at shipping antique rifles ? (I know they won't ship modern handguns...) UPS will ship ALL antique arms.

Last time I shipped a shotgun, I wrapped the barrels in bubble wrap & slid them into a rigid cardboard shipping tube. I removed the locks (it was a sidelock hammer gun) and bubble wrapped the heck out of the action/buttstock. Then, in a small cardboard box, I placed the forearm and the locks, each one bubble wrapped. Then, all three parcels were packed into a typical shipping box (firmly packed with packing peanuts).

I would have loved to had seen the look on the person's face when they opened it - I'm sure they thought I was nuts ! It was sent to a gunsmith - to repair hammer damage (probably caused during a previous shipment) and lock work.

It certainly arrived safely !

Last year I had a gun I purchased on the west coast shipped to me using USPS. This is a valuable piece so I shipped the seller a Browning hardcase to use to mail it back to me. Thank God I did. The case was well packed but the package was struck by something that punctured the cardboard box, went through the bubble wrap and damaged the hard case (broke the wood or fiberboard under the faux leather) but did not strike the gun.

Cardboard and bubblewrap and peanuts ain't always gonna be enough!

True, Pete.

Years ago - when I was into longrifles (long-barreled muzzleloaders), I bought one from an outfit in Oregon. They shipped this thing in a 6 foot long pine box ! NICE !

That's the most care I've ever seen a seller take !