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Bill Kekatos 08-23-2015 11:58 AM

My First Parker. What Grade Is It?
 
I pulled the trigger and got my first Parker. I don't have it my hands yet, but it is on its way. From the limited experience I have from reading your posts and looking at pictures, I believe it to be a DH. Serial number 111377, 30" damascus barrels with ivory beads. The serial number puts its manufacture in 1902. I don't know the gauge yet. I asked, but never got an answer. It appears to have a metal buttplate. I became a PGCA member and will be sending for a letter as soon as I receive the gun. What can you tell me by looking at the pics?
Thank you. BillK

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David Noble 08-23-2015 12:40 PM

Bill, welcome to the PGCA and congratulations on your first Parker! You are correct about it being a DH grade. The condition looks pretty good, though not a lot of case colors are evident in the pictures. The barrels look on face and it appears to have a solid lock- up. It's always difficult to determine gauge and frame size from pictures but statistics would say it is a 12 ga on a 2 frame. I don't have my serialization book with me to check the configuration but it appears to be all factory correct. The butt is most likely the original skeleton steel butt plate which is a big plus in collector value.
I would say you have a very nice first Parker and a graded one at that!

Jay Gardner 08-23-2015 12:50 PM

Nice acquisition. I'd say it has had a lace on butt-pad at one point for quite some time (fade in the coloration of the stock). Not a big deal, at all. Perhaps it's just the angle of the camera but it looks like there is not the usual 3" of drop at heel. Well done.

Bill Kekatos 08-24-2015 09:14 AM

Thank you for the information gentlemen. What is the safest way to remove the old dirt and oil from the engraving and the rust from the barrels?
BillK

Mike Franzen 08-25-2015 09:28 AM

Nice gun Bill. The safest way to clean up the gun and remove rust is covered in detail in these forums. The safest thing to do is go slow, take your time learning about your gun and its care. IMO you have a really nice desirable Parker. Don't diminish its value by getting in a hurry.

John Campbell 08-25-2015 12:44 PM

Mr. Kekatos:
You have a fine Parker DH there. And I mean no ill, but you seem a bit unfamiliar with them. Thus, in order to preserve your investment, and the arms history it embodies, I'd urge you to send the gun to a professional double gunsmith for a strip-and-clean and overall inspection. It won't cost much, will preserve the gun and screw slots, and inform you as to whatever unseen issues it may have.

I'd recco Brad Bachelder or Kirk Merrington for this.

Again, all in the best interest of you and your Parker.

Bill Kekatos 08-25-2015 04:56 PM

Thank you gentlemen for your knowledgable responses. Although I own and shoot a number of older SxS shotguns, this represents my first Parker gun. As soon as I receive it, I was thinking of sending it to either Brad or Kirk for a clean and strip and an evaluation. Kirk has a couple of my guns presently at his shop for a clean and strip. Any additional information you can provide is most welcomed.
BillK

Bill Kekatos 08-28-2015 08:42 AM

I am now officially a Parker owner. Yesterday I received my gun and I am impressed by the fit and finish of my first Parker. It appears to be all original. The barrels are in excellent shape, with the exception of a small dent on the left barrel about 8" from the breach. The barrels and stock are not cut. It has a skeleton butt plate with checkered wood and the drop of heel is about 2.75"-2.875". The water table is marked 3 and D. For some reason I could not remove the barrels and thus, I cannot say what frame it is yet. It appears to be in a nice original condition. I have already requested a letter and looking forward to discover some of its history and whereabouts.
BillK

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todd allen 08-30-2015 03:23 PM

Bill, congrat's. You stepped into the Parker world on a fairly high level, for a first gun!
BTW, I noticed that the butt stock on yours has the lightening plugs cut into the butt end.
The Parker builders went the extra mile to ensure the proper balance on this gun.

Bill Kekatos 08-30-2015 10:02 PM

Thank you Todd. I noticed that also. I am familiar with that practice in British guns. I was not aware american makers were doing it also.


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