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Robin Lewis 02-17-2015 12:49 PM

ATF considering stopping ammo sales
 
I know we are not to post any political posts in the forum but I hope this doesn't fall under the political ban. I think this is something anyone in the shooting community should be aware of, so please no flames. My intent is to simply make you aware of this, if you have not read about it anywhere else. I have tried to keep the wording simply informational, without opinions that might cause any type of discussion. As one of my favorite cops would say: "Just the facts mam, just the facts".

The ATF is considering stopping the sale of 5.56mm ammunition!

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued a white paper to determine whether certain ammunition is "primarily intended for sporting purposes." At issue is 5.56mm M855 ammo, which is considered "armor piercing," and therefore the ATF says it's of questionable merit for the average citizen. If you want to read the ATF white paper, here is a link to it: http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fil...g_purposes.pdf


So what can you do? Contact your federal representatives and the ATF.

If you never contacted your representative before and need to know how, this link should help: http://www.usa.gov/Agencies.shtml
The ATF bureau will not acknowledge receipt of comments, but you can submit them in the following ways:
· ATF email: APAComments@atf.gov
· Fax: (202) 648-9741
· Mail: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.

Dean Romig 02-17-2015 03:50 PM

Interesting that there is nothing in the Constitution or the Second Amendment regarding "Sporting" arms or ammunition.

Bruce Day 02-17-2015 04:15 PM

This is only the steel core armor piercing ammo. Nothing to do with .223 lead bullets. I'm not aware that anybody uses armor piercing bullets for fox or prairie dogs.

The armor piercing rounds will penetrate cars or Kevlar vests.

wayne goerres 02-17-2015 04:20 PM

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but they are not considering it they have already done it. As of march 1 it can no longer be sold for civilian use.

John Campbell 02-17-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 159621)
The armor piercing rounds will penetrate cars or Kevlar vests.

Ahem... and with all due respect, that, good sir, is precisely the point.

Richard Flanders 02-17-2015 04:36 PM

More specifically, from what I've read, they are considering banning the green tipped 62gr M855 ammo, which has half-assed AP capability and which is now a bit outdated by the latest and better version and is being dumped on the civilian market. If anyone wants some before it's too late, Widners? Wiedners? is the best source if they were able to get some more in stock.

Bruce Day 02-17-2015 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Campbell (Post 159625)
Ahem... and with all due respect, that, good sir, is precisely the point.

Foolish me. Since I am no longer flying over Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia, etc, I thought my need for armor piercing bullets was past.

Stephen Hodges 02-17-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Campbell (Post 159625)
Ahem... and with all due respect, that, good sir, is precisely the point.

???????

Stephen Hodges 02-17-2015 06:52 PM

You know, I should probably keep my mouth shut, but after spending 28 years in Law Enforcement and much of that time wearing a bullet proof vest so that I may go home to my family if I encountered some nut that wanted to kill me, I see no reason for someone to have that type of ammo. None. And yes, I support the 2nd Amendment..........................Please consider our Law Enforcement folks when you make a blanket decision to oppose a regulation that has NO effect on your personal life. It has an effect on there's. Thanks.

Robert Delk 02-17-2015 07:12 PM

I believe it is also against the law for civilians to wear body armor.
I find that strange since civilians are shot in far greater numbers than law enforcement officers.


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