Ithaca Pigeon Gun
 

Gentlemen ,Do we have any Ithaca Gun Guru's on our Parker Site ? I picked this gun up walking a Gun Show some time back just because I liked it and Condition is everything in Old Guns ! Can anyone tell me more than what I think I know already ? Ithaca Lewis Era Gun , Grade 2 ,Pigeon Gun which I am told over and over ,they never really made a Pigeon Gun :corn: Thank You for any Info. you can give me on this Gun ! Russ

Russ,
Can't tell you anything other than the obvious: that is a hell of a great gun!!
Bob J

i am anything but an expert

but did real pigeon guns have a safety?



and oh yeah------ great gun in any case

I don't know about them but you are not the only one that thinks they made a pigeon gun. In a google Ithaca +"pigeon gun" returned several Ithaca Grade #2 Pigeon guns on the internet. Why do "they" say Ithaca didn't make them when they seem to be out there? You have a nice one.

Krupp Steel #2 Grade Ithacas of that era were "named" The Pigeon Gun. Had nothing to do with them being a real pigeon gun. That is about the nicest one I've seen.

Gentlemen ,I have found three Pigeon's on the WEB and what I can find is that there is not much info. out there but this is the lowest serial# I have seen about 4 to 6 years earlier than the Flues guns I have been able to dig up ! The serial # is 96568 ,I believe ,1904 ! It does have a White Lime Pad that is as hard as a Brick but appears to have aged for quite a while and fits the gun perfectly !

Would anyone have an idea when the Ithaca Gun Company would have started importing the Krupp Steel Barrels from Germany and how many might have been labeled Pigeon Guns ?

Ithaca Gun Co. began offering steel barrels right around 1900. The No. 2 Krupp Pigeon was in their offerings from the Lewis era into the Flues era to 1915. The No. 2 Krupp Pigeon had a list price of $70 while the regular No. 2 with Damascus barrels had a list price of $60. A ten dollar premium for the Krupp barrels. In mid-1915, when Ithaca Gun Co. introduced their new engraving patterns they began offering the new floral engraved No. 1 1/2, their $50 list price gun with either Damascus or Krupp barrels at the same price --

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and from then on the No. 2 Krupp Pigeon was no longer catalogued. Only the Lewis Models seem to be found marked PIGEON GUN. That marking hasn't been observed on the Minier of Flues Models.

In addition to the No. 2 Krupp Pigeon, Krupp barrels were offered on higher priced Ithacas for a time at the same price as the Damascus barrels. WW-I ended composite iron and steel barrels and Krupp barrels at Ithaca Gun Co.

A very nice find Russ, congrats on a beauty.

you sure found a nice gun russ..charlie