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Gary Carmichael Sr 05-19-2014 10:27 AM

A 200.00 or grade 5 gun
 
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Thought I would share these photos of this 200.00 grade gun, 10 gauge 32" full&full, Letter says shipped to T Carter Salt Lake City Utah 1879, Gary

Gary Carmichael Sr 05-19-2014 10:32 AM

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Jay Gardner 05-19-2014 10:39 AM

WOW!!!!!!

David Dwyer 05-19-2014 01:15 PM

Gary
Are you sure that is a $200 gun. A full teardrop on the bolster usually indicated a $250 grade?

Gary Carmichael Sr 05-19-2014 01:29 PM

Yea David I have a letter, gun cost 200.00

Bill Murphy 05-19-2014 01:53 PM

Is that the gun that Kevin McCormack once owned and wrote a DGJ article about? As I recall, his gun was a Carter gun. The serial number rings a bit of a bell.

Gary Carmichael Sr 05-19-2014 02:21 PM

Bill, Serial # 13565 do not know if it is the same gun, according to the letter by Mark the gun was returned for credit by T Carter, and was sold again to Nelson Soule Paducah KY in 1881, was returned by Nelson in 1885 to have barrels rebrowned @ 5.00 Gary

Bill Murphy 05-19-2014 02:56 PM

I think it is Kevin's old gun. Look for the DGJ article.

Dean Romig 05-19-2014 03:45 PM

Gary, that is a beautiful gun.

Sometimes the dollar amount that a Parker was sold at represents a discount and th gun may be a higher grade than the sell price may indicate. That is one of the difficulties of assigning a grade to a particular gun. The size and shape of the 'teardrop' on the bolster is also misleading at times. Grade 5 and Grade 6 teardrops are both full length but the Grade 6 teardrops are usually more bulbous than the Grade 5. But then, the Grade 6 or $250 Grade was introduced later than the Grade 5 or $200 Grade so that must also be taken into consideration.

The teardrop and lack of engraving in the vacancies around the teardrop of Gary's gun appear to be more indicative of the $200 Grade.

Kevin McCormack 05-19-2014 04:13 PM

Yes, I once owned this gun. As Bill suggests, save yourselves a lot of wind and smoke and read my article (DGJ Vol. 13, Issue 2, Summer 2003). The gun is a Grade 5 ($225 Grade equivalent) and was priced accordingly, discounted for the dealer Thomas Carter, likely used as a display gun, then apparently returned for credit and per the PGCA letter ultimately sold to Nelson Soule. And yes, I'm SURE about the pricing, discount and credit, because I personally looked through nearly the entire Order Book for the entry (remember, the Stock Book was missing) before I found it. (Thanks, Dennis!)


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