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Randy Zimmer 02-22-2024 03:56 PM

Paper hulls, black powder
 
After firing 16 gauge paper hulls reloaded with black powder, I observed black soot around the brass base on some of the hulls. Would these then be compromised and should I throw them away?

Jeff Elder 02-22-2024 04:09 PM

Randy do you have any recipes for smokeless powder in a federal 16 gauge paper hull?

Rick Losey 02-22-2024 06:22 PM

Slice one open and see if it is burnt through

Black powder burn holes was the reason for high brass in larger loads way back. It would retain the charge just in case

Randy Zimmer 02-22-2024 09:00 PM

Jeff, I do not have any load data using smokeless powder in paper hulls. I use the paper hulls only for black powder loads.

Mike Koneski 02-22-2024 11:32 PM

I’d use a flashlight and shine it into the hulls, then look around the hull and see if you have any pin holes. If so, pitch them. I reload black powder shotshells in 12g paper. Federal Gold Medal and Fiocchi Super Crusher. Only paper hulls, fiber wads, nitro cards, etc. No plastic at all as it gums up the barrels.

Frank Srebro 02-23-2024 07:34 AM

Modern Federal 12-gauge papers will last three reloads with black powder/fiber wads/bare shot before getting pin holes burned through the paper just above the brass. To me that means three reloads and hull is tossed.

Randy Zimmer 02-23-2024 08:54 AM

Speaking of the fiber wads, gentlemen, I have both lubed and non-lubed. Must they be lubed?

Mike Koneski 02-23-2024 09:17 AM

Randy, I can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t use lubed wads.

Dave Noreen 02-23-2024 10:19 AM

Quote:

Black powder burn holes was the reason for high brass in larger loads way back.
I don't think that is true. All the high brass paper cases I've ever seen were for smokeless powder. It may be the reason many preferred to load their black powder in brass cases.

Frank Srebro 02-23-2024 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 406043)
Randy, I can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t use lubed wads.

Neither do I. The non-lubed wads work just fine. I always fire a smokeless shell or two through each barrel after a PB event or day's hunt and before soapy hot water cleaning. Makes bore cleaning much easier.


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