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Brian Hornacek 03-12-2023 09:05 PM

32” Sunday
 
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Blew a little dust out of the tubes today.

32” Fox AE, serial number 106 sent back and ejectors added
32” DHE vent rib Trap Dudley restock out for a trial run
32” DHE Dudley restock out for trial run

Have a great week folks

Mills Morrison 03-13-2023 09:34 AM

Very nice!

Reggie Bishop 03-13-2023 09:48 AM

Very nice 32s!

John Davis 03-13-2023 10:14 AM

What's the vent rib trap choked?

Brian Hornacek 03-13-2023 10:25 AM

I checked really quick on Sunday since it was skeet I was shooting, I think it was 0.037/0.037. The skeet birds did not fair very well.

Garry L Gordon 03-13-2023 03:45 PM

Nice!!

32" barrels -- get 'em swinging, keep 'em swinging. They might even make a poor shot like me a bit better on crossing shots, but would definitely make me a happier shooter carrying one.

CraigThompson 03-13-2023 10:51 PM

Brian you don’t want some crummy old vent rib gun that has a yuck single trigger . Send it to Virginia and it can stay with the yucky old vent rib single trigger gun in my safe .:whistle::bigbye::rotf::rotf::rotf:

CraigThompson 03-13-2023 10:54 PM

I still cannot forget a good many of the so called trap shooters in the know thirty to forty years ago saying 32” doubles were to long to get on the second trap doubles bird quickly . Evidently it didn’t hinder those before them and it damn sure doesn’t seem to be hindering folks now . Heck now I see skeet shooters competing with 34” barrels no less .

John Davis 03-14-2023 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Hornacek (Post 384609)
I checked really quick on Sunday since it was skeet I was shooting, I think it was 0.037/0.037. The skeet birds did not fair very well.

32 inch, full choke barrels on the skeet field. Brian, you are a real man!

John Davis 03-14-2023 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 384643)
I still cannot forget a good many of the so called trap shooters in the know thirty to forty years ago saying 32” doubles were to long to get on the second trap doubles bird quickly .

IMHO, in Doubles trap it’s more important to get the first target as quick as possible. Then you’ve got plenty of time to get to the second bird. So, if 32 inch barrels are good for singles then they’re good for the second target in doubles. However, both of my doubles guns are 30 inches. The real oddity is shooting a side by side.

Mike Koneski 03-14-2023 08:24 AM

Grasshopper, choke is irrelevant. Put the muzzles at the right place and you will break the bird. :clap:

John Davis 03-14-2023 10:58 AM

Choke for smoke.

CraigThompson 03-14-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 384658)
Grasshopper, choke is irrelevant. Put the muzzles at the right place and you will break the bird. :clap:

I’d rather have 100 chipped targets than 99 ink balls and one that got away :whistle: An X is an X don’t grade uhm :cool:

Stan Hillis 03-14-2023 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 384665)
I’d rather have 100 chipped targets than 99 ink balls and one that got away :whistle: An X is an X don’t grade uhm :cool:

That's really a "created scenario" that rarely happens. The fact is that "smoke" creates self-confidence, whereas chips do not. And, self confidence makes you a better shot. I'll put my money on a sporting clays shooter that prefers tight chokes. I've shot nothing but .020" and .020" in my Perazzi 31 1/2" MX 8 since about 2008. Punched into M class in 2010. Never seen the need for screw-ins in that gun. If I have a close-in, erratic, rabbit target I drop in a spreader and handle it that way.

Different chokes for different "fokes".

CraigThompson 03-14-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hillis (Post 384690)
That's really a "created scenario" that rarely happens. The fact is that "smoke" creates self-confidence, whereas chips do not. And, self confidence makes you a better shot. I'll put my money on a sporting clays shooter that prefers tight chokes. I've shot nothing but .020" and .020" in my Perazzi 31 1/2" MX 8 since about 2008. Punched into M class in 2010. Never seen the need for screw-ins in that gun. If I have a close-in, erratic, rabbit target I drop in a spreader and handle it that way.

Different chokes for different "fokes".

I’m not disagreeing , but I’ve personally been down both roads . I’ll still take 100 visible chips any day .

Mike Koneski 03-14-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 384664)
Choke for smoke.

AMEN!!

Mike Koneski 03-14-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hillis (Post 384690)
That's really a "created scenario" that rarely happens. The fact is that "smoke" creates self-confidence, whereas chips do not. And, self confidence makes you a better shot. I'll put my money on a sporting clays shooter that prefers tight chokes. I've shot nothing but .020" and .020" in my Perazzi 31 1/2" MX 8 since about 2008. Punched into M class in 2010. Never seen the need for screw-ins in that gun. If I have a close-in, erratic, rabbit target I drop in a spreader and handle it that way.

Different chokes for different "fokes".

I do the same thing Stan. I change shot size depending on the target. Also use spreaders for bunnies. I can truly say I’ve never missed a target because of too much choke but I have picked up targets due to tighter chokes.

John Davis 03-15-2023 05:42 AM

Here’s my prescription for trap: Full choke for singles; tight full for handicap; modified for first shot in doubles and full for second shot. #8 shot for singles and first shot in doubles; #7 1/2 shot in handicap and second shot in doubles. Works for me.

And I’ll take the middle road. I go for ink balls but will take whatever I can get.

Bill Murphy 03-15-2023 07:24 AM

I am a lucky sporting clays shooter, in that I am not looking for a high 90s score and don't lament the occasional miss caused by my tight chokes. As long as we're sharing old shooting quotes, let me give you one that has not been used on this thread. "The great majority of misses are not measured in inches. Most are measured in feet." The size of the pattern does not cause anywhere near as many misses as lifted heads and peeking at sights. Just my experience.

CraigThompson 03-15-2023 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 384715)
I am a lucky sporting clays shooter, in that I am not looking for a high 90s score and don't lament the occasional miss caused by my tight chokes. As long as we're sharing old shooting quotes, let me give you one that has not been used on this thread. "The great majority of misses are not measured in inches. Most are measured in feet." The size of the pattern does not cause anywhere near as many misses as lifted heads and peeking at sights. Just my experience.

100’s for me are in relation to skeet/trap as to that other so called game if I’m over 80% I’m pleased .

Randy G Roberts 03-15-2023 08:45 AM

Concerning 12 gauge guns with one exception all that I own are choked in excess of .030, some substantially more. I don't even think about chokes any more as long as they are tight, just shoot and move on. I have carried the same 2 boxes of spreaders to Haussmans, The Rock, and the Southern for I don't really know how long now, they are still full. Same intention every trip, use em on the bunny. Same mind set every trip, I ain't wasting the time digging them out. Don't get me wrong I thinks it's a great idea on the bunny but I just get into a shooting mode mentally and either forget that I have them or just refuse to change anything in my routine. BUT, I have committed to using them in 2023, really. :whistle:

My shooting pal says with reference to tight chokes costing shooters targets that "tight chokes don't matter, you're either on it or you ain't." After years of hearing him say that I'm not so sure that he isn't correct.

Mike Koneski 03-15-2023 08:49 AM

Craig, having shot one "Perfect 100" in an event and many 99, 98, 97s too, it's so easy to make one mental mistake and give up that coveted 100. Bad mount, bad trigger pull, off line, out in front, behind.....The list goes on and on. Doesn't matter how soft we set a course, every bird needs the same amount of focus. The "easy" birds are the ones we don't focus hard on and that causes misses. The mental game causes more misses than a choke combination, which can also be part of the mental game. Let's say you look at a pair, quartering birds, slow to medium speed, kill zone at 20-25 yards and you think you need IC/SK. You swap out your M or LM, then proceed to miss the first pair. Now your mind blames the choke selection instead of an improper mount and connection with the birds. That doubt will most likely cause at least another miss if not more. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

CraigThompson 03-15-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 384726)
Craig, having shot one "Perfect 100" in an event and many 99, 98, 97s too, it's so easy to make one mental mistake and give up that coveted 100. Bad mount, bad trigger pull, off line, out in front, behind.....The list goes on and on. Doesn't matter how soft we set a course, every bird needs the same amount of focus. The "easy" birds are the ones we don't focus hard on and that causes misses. The mental game causes more misses than a choke combination, which can also be part of the mental game. Let's say you look at a pair, quartering birds, slow to medium speed, kill zone at 20-25 yards and you think you need IC/SK. You swap out your M or LM, then proceed to miss the first pair. Now your mind blames the choke selection instead of an improper mount and connection with the birds. That doubt will most likely cause at least another miss if not more. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

Buddy you’re preaching to the choir ! Over the years I got a decent number of 100’s at skeet in 12 , 20 and 28 . But the damn 410 had my number I had a veritable pile of 98’s and 99’s with the 410 never could get that nor the 400x400 I sure wanted back when I was eaten up with the skeet bug .:banghead:

Daryl Corona 03-15-2023 10:05 AM

Nice trio of guns Brian. Apologies for detouring your thread but if I start out on the first few stations just chipping targets I just don't have the feedback to get into a "zone". Smoke begets smoke. YMMV.

Mike Koneski 03-15-2023 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 384735)
Nice trio of guns Brian. Apologies for detouring your thread but if I start out on the first few stations just chipping targets I just don't have the feedback to get into a "zone". Smoke begets smoke. YMMV.

Well, Brian's thread is on it's way to Cuba.... :rotf: :shock: That always happens as soon as the topic of choke comes up.

Brian Hornacek 03-15-2023 04:18 PM

Well I have shot many a 25 in skeet with full and full. My happiest day ever was shooting a 25 with my 34” hammer gun, O frame with 0.044 and 0.044. I have logged more 23’s than I can count with it but 25 is a bit tricky as the mind game closes in on station 8 :-). The best practice I have ever done is with tight chokes on a skeet field, to repeat the above……when your in the zone it all plays out and some days when I say “that gun is not shooting where I am looking!” I am nowhere near the mindset I need to be in to shoot well.

Happy shooting everyone and shoot what you like, with the choke you like, as much as you can.

John Davis 03-15-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Hornacek (Post 384756)
Well I have shot many a 25 in skeet with full and full. My happiest day ever was shooting a 25 with my 34” hammer gun, O frame with 0.044 and 0.044. I have logged more 23’s than I can count with it but 25 is a bit tricky as the mind game closes in on station 8 :-). The best practice I have ever done is with tight chokes on a skeet field, to repeat the above……when your in the zone it all plays out and some days when I say “that gun is not shooting where I am looking!” I am nowhere near the mindset I need to be in to shoot well.

Happy shooting everyone and shoot what you like, with the choke you like, as much as you can.

Brian, you are the man. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

CraigThompson 03-15-2023 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Hornacek (Post 384756)
Well I have shot many a 25 in skeet with full and full. My happiest day ever was shooting a 25 with my 34” hammer gun, O frame with 0.044 and 0.044. I have logged more 23’s than I can count with it but 25 is a bit tricky as the mind game closes in on station 8 :-). The best practice I have ever done is with tight chokes on a skeet field, to repeat the above……when your in the zone it all plays out and some days when I say “that gun is not shooting where I am looking!” I am nowhere near the mindset I need to be in to shoot well.

Happy shooting everyone and shoot what you like, with the choke you like, as much as you can.

I can relate ! I used to help out with the home club skeet league and you had for lack of a better term “up and coming” shooters with their nice new O/U tube spouting off about this that or the other . And yes before you say it I know I got that description years ago . Anyway after the league is finished usually I’ll grill burgers and dogs for them and maybe shoot a couple rounds . So one year I drug out a Grade 2 10 gauge 3 frame 32” that was tight and tighter . And the up coming hotdogs wanted to shoot also , so around we go ! I put 25 black clouds in the sky to their utter amazement and then we’d hit a second round . Wish I could say I went 50x50 , but 49x50 was enough to outdo them all :bigbye: But in their defense I’ve been shooting skeet longer than some of those guys have been on the face of the earth . So you might say even thou the gun in their words handicapped me , I still had an advantage from having done it so much longer and not getting wound up about it .

Will Gurton 03-26-2023 09:43 PM

Brian, or Brian?

What pad and treament did you use on the far right DHE?

Thanks, Will

Brian Hornacek 03-26-2023 09:46 PM

That is the red Decelerator 1”, they are great but out of stock everywhere i believe.

Brian

Will Gurton 03-26-2023 10:21 PM

Pachmayr Pad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Hornacek (Post 385512)
That is the red Decelerator 1”, they are great but out of stock everywhere i believe.

Brian

Worse than that Brian I believe discontinued!

Did he add a spacer?

Will

Brian Hornacek 03-26-2023 10:33 PM

its a 1” pad, no spacer.


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