Looked like it to me Brian but I couldn’t read the word Miller.





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Thanks Brian,

Since the existing stock was not original, I wanted to make it true to what a Grade 3 would look like.

The letter stated that it would have had a skeleton butt plate, so we added that and I also copied the Grade 3 Ball grip from the 12 that I currently have.
Now this gun I don’t believe had a completely checkered ball grip from new, but I just really admire the fully checkered Parker ball grip.

The reason I don’t think this originally had the fully checkered ball grip, I had the good fortune of connecting with a fellow member who has the consecutive serial number to this gun which is also a 16 Lifter. These 2 16 gauge lifters were ordered by the same gentleman in 1879, and the letter shows they were pretty much ordered as identical guns.
The replacement stock dimensions had a fair amount of drop, but I shot it fairly well surprisingly. I did bring the new stock dimensions closer to some of the other lifters I currently use.

:)Hello,
We are enjoying the great weather down here at the Southern, I thought I would share a picture of a lifter:)

That's beautiful Stan! There is nothing better than a lifter that takes yellow shells :)

What a beauty Stan!
I love those barrels!





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shucks Stan, you blocked off your score--I know it would be better than mine. What a beauty. I did go 1 for 1 on a big turkey this morning, pictures to follow on another thread. See you at Hausmann's

Dean,

This is my first Parker with Laminated Parker barrels, they are quite pretty, but of course I’m biased.

I’m not so sure you wouldn’t have topped my score Harold, I really was struggling to adjust to too many different guns:rolleyes: or that is my excuse

Yes Jay, you’re correct on the yellow shell guns, I hope we can shoot them together at Hausmans.

We had great fun, many beautiful guns and I was able to put faces to names, met a number of fellow Parker members.

Hope to see everyone at Hausmans,

Stan

Beautiful lifters you guys.. :bowdown:

Phil Carr, what can you tell us about the Baltimore Arms Co. gun in the background in your last picture?

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Hello and good morning Stan, I am new to this and just purchased a 32" 10gauge Damascus Parker Brothers shotgun 1880 date. Where can I get a new stock for it?

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Hello Joseph and Welcome,

There is a handful of good stock makers out there, our own Brian Dudley is a very accomplished stock maker.
If you give your approximate location, I believe we can make a recommendation on a stock maker that may be close to you to potentially make logistics easier.
The gentleman who restocked my 16 wishes to remain anonymous due to his workload being manageable.

Congratulations on your purchase, please share some pictures!

Stan

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Hello and good evening Stan,
I appreciate your patience and advice on this shotgun. I am new to this and not even sure it is worth getting repaired? I hope that the pictures help everyone with my decision. Thanks again, I am near San Antonio, Texas

The gun is a grade 2 lifter in relatively poor condition. The stock had been broken at some time. And someone felt the need to fox what was not broken and add a very long piece of metal to the top tang to help hold the stock together or to help prevent future breakage. I have seen various examples of this many times before.

When it comes to that area and the wood, the only route to take is to reverse what was done and completely replace the wood. That alone would cost many times more than the gun is “worth” given its cosmetic condition. Add on top of that the other issues the gun may have, and well, you can figure it out from there.

It is a 4 frame 10g which is a little different. That would be a heavyweight 10g. The standard frame size for 10s was 3.

Hello and good evening Mr. Dudley,
I greatly appreciate your advice on the gun, with that said what do you think I could even get for the shotgun from someone that could repair and not absorb the cost? I have 762 dollars in it now. Thanks again for your opinion on this.

A #4 frame gun is a scarce bird. Your first move should be to get a PGCA letter on the gun to see whether the first owner is an important shooter. A #4 frame gun is usually special ordered by someone who can be identified.

Dave I just read your post right now. I did not realize the gun was in this picture. Kind of crazy.
I just sold this gun on the Fox forum this morning. Fell for a very rare rifle I had to have, so a few will need to go to another caretaker.
Like a Sultan on a budget I want them all but only a few are forever.

Hello and good morning Mr. Murphy,
Thanks for the information. I will do that and see what comes back in the report. I really like the shotgun and their history, so thanks again.

Less than $762

Here's one from 1874. Me and her have some history.
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Oh my Todd,

That is beautiful!!

It's a 30" 12 gauge with Perazzi dimensions.

The dimensions do look great on that one! What a gun!

Beautiful Todd! And the zebra is cool too. We got one in Namibia and it was memorable to say the least

The zebra came to me from a friend who was a taxidermist, and went to Africa every year.
Hagan Thompson, from Las Vegas. Passed away a few years ago.
The story was, that a livestock truck was transporting zebras, and got in an accident, killing one of the zebras.
Hagan and his entourage rolled up on the scene, and Hagan asked if he could skin/cape the dead zebra.
They said okay, and here we are. We were visiting with Hagan regarding a deer mount, and my wife spotted the zebra rug, and had to have it.
Interesting side story: Hagan was a really funny and colorful guy. He (and wife) became friends with a retired stripper, who happened to be African American, and who got into hunting from back in her "work days" in Alaska.
Hagan took her to Africa at least once, maybe twice. Lot's of funny stories, but I've already taken this topic too far into the weeds.

You will have to find someone who will restock your double. If the stock is damaged and can be repaired, that'll cost much less. Even if you happen to find a stock from another gun, you'll still need to have it fit by someone that knows what they are doing. A new stock will cost you easily $2000 and up.

Double guns and pool!! Now you're digging where the taters are!! :bowdown:

How's this for a lifter? Because in Russia women don't lift weights, weights lift women.

Mike,
Your idea of a lifter is a little skewed, actually really off.:nono:

I'm trying to get that picture out of my head:fg:

Thanks Stan, looks like my work here is done. :whistle::rotf:

Ran across this old picture from about 22 years ago. Me and my old hunting partner, Doctors Gresen (he's behind the Camara)
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Todd, that's a great photo!

A Rare pair of 20 gauge Underlifters meet @ Sanford
 

This past weekend I had the pleasure of meeting Jay Oliver at Deep River,

Jay had brought his great 20 gauge underlifter and we put the two lifters back together for a few pictures. (I believe these spent some time together before)?

Now that is awesome!

I enjoyed meeting Stan as well. Those guns were both made in 1879 with Parker made Laminated steel barrels. It was nice to see them together. Stan's grade 3 20ga. lifter is just beautiful.

Maybe pics of the two Hoover lifter howitzers will soon be in the cards :whistle:

If you insist Craig,

Yes, another one followed me home, it is a 6 frame 32” grade 2 with fairly open chokes, .018 & .020. Was hoping to take a spin on the practice 5 stand before waving the Southern on Sunday, but weather and time didn’t allow:rolleyes:

Very nice Stan!! Mike Smith told me he bought a second 8 Saturday at the Southern, GH 36" I think. I'm sure we will see it at Hausmann's, looking forward to seeing you and the new cannon.

Craig,

I was able to shoulder Mike's new 8, it is a monster with 36" barrels. Looking forward to Hausmans also, maybe we can try the Bo Whoop targets.

Stan

I happened by just as Mike was wrapping up the deal. It's a beast.

Nice!!!