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jefferyconnor 10-10-2022 11:22 PM

Fox flat side
 
I seem to recall there was a late production Fox shotgun made with flat sides, without the pointed milling. Does anyone know what model that was? If you own one, could you post a picture?
Jeff

Bill Murphy 10-11-2022 06:34 AM

There are pictures and discussions of that model on the Fox Collectors Association website and forum.

Brett Souder 10-11-2022 09:10 AM

The gun was called an SPE Skeet & Upland special.
- Brett

Dave Noreen 10-11-2022 11:39 AM

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Savage introduced the flat-sided black gun-metal finished SP-/SPE-Grade in the summer of 1932.

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By 1935 Savage added a Skeet & Upland Game Gun version with some scroll engraving on the frame and barrels --

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As things were approaching the end, Savage used up some of the SP frames to make Fox-Sterlingworths --

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Reggie Bishop 10-11-2022 11:48 AM

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Here is one--

Dave Noreen 10-11-2022 12:17 PM

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The early SP-/SPE-Grades were absolutely plain. A 12-gauge --

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A 16-gauge --

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After a while Savage added a bit of border engraving and flourishes to the SP-/SPE-Grades. A 12-gauge --

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A 16-gauge --

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jefferyconnor 10-11-2022 04:39 PM

As things were approaching the end, Savage used up some of the SP frames to make Fox-Sterlingworths --

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These are the ones I was thinking of...the color hardened guns made on the SP frames.

Dave Noreen 10-11-2022 06:04 PM

In 12-gauges the thirteen Fox-Sterlingworths I've recorded from 132649 to 132927 are 30-inch barrel on the flat-sided frame. Three from 137963 to 138010 are 28-inch barrel Fox-Sterlingworths on the flat-sided SP-Frame. I've recorded one 26-inch barrel SP-frame Fox-Sterlingworth 161319.

In 16-gauge the five Fox-Sterlingworths I've recorded from 376996 to 377119 are 28-inch barrel guns on the flat-side SP-frames.

Haven't seen one in 20-gauge yet.

In addition, I've seen one or two very late "executive" guns made on the SP-Frame that were color case hardened.

Bill Murphy 10-17-2022 06:45 PM

Dave, exactly what are the Executive guns made on the SP frame and case colored? How are they different from the flat sided case colored Sterlingworths that you pictured?

Dave Noreen 10-17-2022 07:03 PM

Better wood & checkering and varying amounts of better than Fox-Sterlingworth engraving.


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