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Jon Martin 06-07-2020 11:37 AM

New from Charlotte
 
Hello,

I'm a Parker owner from Charlotte, NC. Have been shooting skeet, trap, and sporting clays most of my life, and my first job as 12 was a trap boy.

I have inherited two Parkers -- one that was my Great Grandfather's (will likely never part from it), and one that my Dad purchased along the way.

Don't know much about them, so look forward to doing research, ordering letters, and hoping some of the members here can help me out.

Parker #1 - Serial Number 152910 (1910)
20 Gauge sxs with some decently ornate engravings. 20 ga, Parker Special Steel barrels

Parker #2 - Serial Number 102341 (1901)
12 Gauge sxs with minimal engravings, 12 ga, Vulcan Steel barrels

Thanks,
Jon

Gerald McPherson 06-07-2020 01:00 PM

Welcome Jon: We love pictures.

Garry L Gordon 06-07-2020 03:11 PM

Welcome! I echo Gerald's comment -- show us some pictures if you can. Order a letter...and join the PGCA (maybe in reverse order to save money).

I'm envious that you have "family" Parkers. Consider yourself blessed.

Josh Loewensteiner 06-08-2020 03:50 PM

Jon,

My offices are in Charlotte. Feel free to PM me if you want to connect.

keavin nelson 06-09-2020 08:35 AM

152910 isn't in the serialization book, but 911 is. Look on the water table, there should be a single number or letter below the SN, that is the grade.

edgarspencer 06-09-2020 08:56 AM

Hi Jon, Your 20 ga. is a GH, possibly GHE, the E designating Ejectors.
There are factory records available, should you want a Letter on the gun.
G grade guns, in smaller bores, are quite desirable. One just sold here, a few days ago,for just south of $9000.
If you join the PGCA, you can get your membership, and a letter for less than the price a non-member would pay for just the letter.

Jon Martin 05-07-2022 10:19 PM

Thanks so much for all the informative responses.

Yes, old thread, I know. Life went a little sideways for me in 2020 and I put the toys away in the safe for a bit.

I'll take some pics this week and post them. Will def. join PGCA as well.

Thanks,
Jon

Dean Romig 05-08-2022 07:44 PM

And we welcome you Jon!





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Jon Martin 05-09-2022 08:42 AM

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Here are some pics of the first Parker. This one has been in our family since new.

Parker #1 - Serial Number 152910 (1910)
20 Gauge sxs with some decently ornate engravings. 20 ga, Parker Special Steel barrels, ejectors

Dean Romig 05-09-2022 08:52 AM

Nice GHE 20 gauge! Everybody should have a Parker 20.





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Brian Dudley 05-09-2022 02:47 PM

Someone replaced the wood on that gun at some point. In case you were not aware.

Jon Martin 05-09-2022 04:04 PM

Good to know, thanks! Stock, forearm, or both?

Jon Martin 05-09-2022 04:07 PM

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Here are some pics of number 2, which I believe is a VH 12 ga with ejectors.

Parker #2 - Serial Number 102341 (1901)
12 Gauge sxs with minimal engravings, 12 ga, Vulcan Steel barrels

Brian Dudley 05-09-2022 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Martin (Post 363308)
Good to know, thanks! Stock, forearm, or both?

Both.

Austin J Hawthorne Jr. 05-09-2022 05:12 PM

Also, I believe I see a damascus pattern partially obscured on the barrel flats. Does the top rib say "Parker Special Steel" or "Damascus Steel"?

John Knobelsdorf II 05-09-2022 08:24 PM

There is also clearly visible on the barrel flats (of the Grade 2 20 gauge):

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Making a picture of the rib marking more interesting.

Jon Martin 05-09-2022 08:45 PM

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A couple more shots of the GHE 20ga

Brian Dudley 05-09-2022 08:53 PM

The barrels have been sleeved. They were damascus. Now fluid steel, done with monoblocking.
The rib mark has been changed. You can see the sleeve joints in the barrels.

Harold Lee Pickens 05-09-2022 10:10 PM

oh well, all is not lost, as they say. Sure the stock is not original and the damascus barrels have been mono blocked to fluid steel. People did things to their guns without worry about their future value, but to make them more usable for themselves at the time. It would still be a sweet little 20 shooter. You have no money involved, and it was your fathers. Keep it, shoot it, have fun and enjoy it.

Jon Martin 05-10-2022 10:01 AM

Thanks for the info, all.

The GHE 20 has always been a shooter -- my great grandfather and grandfather used it in the field regularly -- and my Dad shot numerous straights on the skeet field with it in the 80s. Not surprised one of them had the wood and barrels redone - it has been well loved and used over the years.

The VHE 12 was added to the collection in the 90s - have shot it a couple times, but it's been awhile.

Bill Murphy 05-10-2022 10:33 AM

I do not believe your VH is an ejector gun.

Dean Romig 05-10-2022 10:47 AM

You're right Bill, it's not an ejector gun, so it's a VH rather than a VHE.





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Brian Dudley 05-10-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Martin (Post 363365)
Thanks for the info, all.

The GHE 20 has always been a shooter -- my great grandfather and grandfather used it in the field regularly -- and my Dad shot numerous straights on the skeet field with it in the 80s. Not surprised one of them had the wood and barrels redone - it has been well loved and used over the years.

The VHE 12 was added to the collection in the 90s - have shot it a couple times, but it's been awhile.


There was a time when all Damascus guns were thought to be unsafe to shoot, or to even think about shooting. So a lot of guns got sleeved in the 60s and 70s so that they could be “shootable”. A lot of perfectly shootable guns were hacked apart so that they could be perceived to be safer. Decades later after enough testing, study and common sense, it is found that is not the case. What was once thought to be saving a gun and making it usable, today is seen as having its value destroyed. How things can change.


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