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Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 09:52 AM

WOW!!
 
CHECK OUT THIS BEAUTY!!!! AND AT A GREAT PRICE IN MY OPINION...
I CAN'T GET TO THE LINK TO WORK BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW PARKER UNDER USED GUNS
Parker - 1776-1876 Commemmorative
$14,500.00
12 ga, 2 1/2" chambers, Double trigger, Semi-Pistol Grip, Splinter forend, Weight 7 lbs, 7 ozs, Cast
http://www.griffinhowe.com/usedgun-sg.cfm

Larry Frey 07-17-2012 10:46 AM

Mfg 1876. Early Parker "lifter" action, made to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the American Revolution 1776-1876.

Were do they get that bit of information?:rolleyes:

Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 12:32 PM

Man, I was just looking at the beautiful engraving and in great condition.

Dean Romig 07-17-2012 01:11 PM

So I guess an early graded lifter with a "coin finish" isn't so bad after all.

Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 01:20 PM

What do you mean by "coin finish"??

Rick Losey 07-17-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel Cruz (Post 74486)
What do you mean by "coin finish"??

Angel, thats a polished silver finish on a receiver


Either that or all the coin in your pocket is finished if you buy it

George Lander 07-17-2012 02:47 PM

It's a beautiful Parker, but they don't give the SN, so we can't see if it started life that way.

Best Regards, George

Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 74490)
Angel, thats a polished silver finish on a receiver


Either that or all the coin in your pocket is finished if you buy it

....:rotf:

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-17-2012 04:44 PM

Guys, The ser # is 6966, I called for more info he will be back to me tomorrow I ask how he knew the gun was a commemorative he said the owner said it was. I ask for more documentation on that. The serialization book says it is an O grade with twist brls and straight stock but it has been known to be wrong before! Gary

Bill Murphy 07-17-2012 05:17 PM

Is it on any of lists of special guns in TPS? Bob Beach is a good friend of ours. I think our researcher can give us a peak at the order book entry. Looks like at least a B, maybe an A judging by the stepped lock plates.

Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 05:28 PM

I wish my O grade would look like that..

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-17-2012 07:48 PM

Bill, I have not checked the Parker Story, the gentleman that owns it has sold some nice Parkers to some of our members before. they were all original guns, would like to know exactly what it is original or upgrade hard to believe it would be the latter. I agree it looks like a grade 5 or 6 with the gold on the grip! Gary

Angel Cruz 07-17-2012 07:58 PM

Gary, I don't know anything, but there's no way it could be an upgrade. Just look at the breach balls. Did you notice the birds in the panels behind the hammers?
Just think, if this were to be an upgrade, the guy that did it is a true master.

Dean Romig 07-17-2012 11:41 PM

Book says it is a TO which is a 0-Grade with Twist barrels.

This is a shining example of when the "book" is wrong.

However, I can see where the confusion might lie in attempting to grade the gun by the barrel steel listed in the order book.
The subject gun does not have the typical Damascus Steel barrels that were normally used on most Parkers of Grades-1 or 2 and on up the grade scale. This gun has a type of Laminated or Twist barrels used on very few of the higher graded guns of the day and was probably shown in the order book as Twist but this is obviously a Grade-6 or A Grade Parker. A few thousand guns earlier it would have been a $300 grade.

See the picture of another higher grade Parker with similar barrels.

....nuts!! oversized!


See an earlier discussion of this type of barrel steel here http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...lish+Laminated

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calvin humburg 07-18-2012 06:45 AM

WOW is right that is very pretty!!! Thats what dreams are made off.

Brian Dudley 07-18-2012 07:44 AM

That bold engraving near the back of the lock plates almost makes it look like the plates are raised in that area. Much like the top grade Lefevers were. What a trick to the eye.

Dave Suponski 07-18-2012 02:12 PM

Brian, The lock plates on high grade Parker hammerguns are indeed stepped.

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-18-2012 04:49 PM

Well, I did not get in till late and missed my call from G&H called and the guy had left for the day but john said he had a few pages of info on it for me will call Thur morn and let everyone know what I find out! Gary

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-18-2012 05:00 PM

I did put in a call to Chuck Bishop yesterday to see if he could shed some light on it for me but have not heard anything yet. I know he is busy. gary

Bill Murphy 07-18-2012 05:30 PM

Brian, the steps on those sideplates are not a trick of the camera. They are for real.

Rich Anderson 07-18-2012 05:40 PM

Angel you can have your O grade look like that. I know just the engraver that can do it for you.

Angel Cruz 07-18-2012 06:19 PM

Rich, I could probably buy another low grade Parker for the price of that type of engraving.
By the way, I also thought the step on the side plates was an engraving mirage. If I had another 7000.00 that gun would be mine by now.

Bill Murphy 07-18-2012 07:17 PM

Anyone look up this number in The Parker Story yet? I'm not home, can't do it.

Dave Suponski 07-18-2012 07:55 PM

According to TPS 6966 D6 Underlifter Pistol grip 10 gauge 28" barrels.

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-18-2012 08:00 PM

The mystery goes on! The TPS and SER Bk have different descriptions of the gun

Robin Lewis 07-18-2012 09:21 PM

In this case I think the gun is the deciding factor. It looks like a nice $250 grade to me and I think the books are in error. It would be interesting to see a letter on it.

I do not buy the 1776 - 1876 centennial comments.

Bill Murphy 07-19-2012 09:47 AM

On another thread, Bruce Day states that these are not stepped sideplates. I stand corrected. I sure would like to see a picture of that buttplate. Solid steel or skeleton?

Angel Cruz 07-19-2012 10:07 AM

We're all blind. Several pictures show the sideplates are not stepped.

Charlie 07-19-2012 10:12 AM

6966 is a D6 listed in TPS as a gun for the 1876 show -- see Chapter on Show Guns. The lists of show guns came from special lists that Parker kept, not the stock books or order books (as I recall). Maybe 6966 started life as a lower grade and was recorded as such in the stock book (source of the Serialization data). A study of data in the stock book and order books may help explain. I have never seen a Parker sidelock with such steps.
Charlie Price

Dave Suponski 07-19-2012 10:40 AM

I stand corrected. Thanks everyone for the clarification.

Chuck Bishop 07-19-2012 11:43 AM

It's the real deal. It was made for the 1876 centennial and is so noted in the stock book. It's one of 5 D6"s sold to the Parker Bros store in NY for $300 along with other lesser grade guns for the centennial. There is a notation for each of these guns being for the centennial in the stock book.

It's a 12ga, 28" barrels, 7 1/2lbs, 14 1/4" pull, full choked, pistol grip.

Angel Cruz 07-19-2012 12:54 PM

I can't believe it does not have a "Sale Pending" sign.

Angel Cruz 07-19-2012 01:47 PM

Here you go.. it is a skeleton butt plate. Just no picture.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Par...n_id=100265856

Gary Carmichael Sr 07-19-2012 03:57 PM

There has a bulge 3" from muzzle on left brl. Bores measure 754=755!

E Robert Fabian 07-19-2012 06:13 PM

It has some serous drop at comb, 2 1/8

edgarspencer 07-19-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel Cruz (Post 74617)
We're all blind. Several pictures show the sideplates are not stepped.

I've seen lots of paintings which used Trompe L'Oeil to create depth, but this is the first time I've seen the work of an engraver employing the technique.
Very beautiful gun, that's for certain.

Dean Romig 07-19-2012 07:37 PM

If the lock plates were stepped I would expect to see the step continued into the wood, and it is not.

edgarspencer 07-19-2012 07:54 PM

Exactly, Dean. I picked up on that, admittedly after many oogles.

Bill Murphy 07-19-2012 08:08 PM

Gary, as you know, the bore diameter is within limits for early guns. As for the steps, we will have to wait for a fingernail test from the first one of us to actually inspect the gun. I'm willing to wait.

Rich Anderson 07-19-2012 09:45 PM

Angel she's waiting on you to finish the adoption papers. to speed things along I just happen to know a foster home for a certain straight grip 16ga hammer gun:)


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