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edward mccay 05-08-2012 10:49 PM

Parker A grade
 
Looking at a gun SN#60000 all matching serial numbers 10gauge. It is in really nice condition. Any idea what I should pay for it "range". Pics to follow. The gun was found in an attic.

Jim DiSpagno 05-08-2012 11:17 PM

Should have 30" barrels and a capped pistol grip stock no extras and the barrel flats should have a D for damascus with possibly a small number such as a4 or 6 near it That is the grade of damascus{ #of wire strands}

Dean Romig 05-08-2012 11:32 PM

Actually, beginning with the Grade 5 or B Grade the barrel flats are often - but not always - stamped with a DD (likely indicative of "finest Damascus") rather than a single D and the grade numeral stamp of 6, in this case, is normally stamped closer to the breech end of the flats.

edward mccay 05-08-2012 11:34 PM

Yeah every thing is right on. I dont have a clue what to offer the guy

Dean Romig 05-08-2012 11:48 PM

Two years ago I bought a nice A Grade 12 gauge for $9K from a very reputable dealer. It was also in the 60k serial number range and was a lovely example of A Grade wood, checkering and fabulous engraving. After two days I sent it back because I wasn't entirely pleased with it. The dealer took it back 'no questions asked' for a full refund.

My point is that if it is as nice as you make it sound it is a valuable gun. It will be worth exactly what you and the current owner decide is a fair price.

edward mccay 05-09-2012 12:21 PM

Pics
 
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Bill Murphy 05-09-2012 12:26 PM

Didn't seem to make it.

Stephen Hodges 05-09-2012 02:06 PM

A Grade Pictures
 
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I posted these for Edward.

Stephen Hodges 05-09-2012 02:08 PM

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edward mccay 05-09-2012 05:33 PM

Anyone have an idea what would be a good offer price for the gun?

edgarspencer 05-09-2012 05:46 PM

Honestly, the pictures just aren't crisp enough to get a feel for the condition.

greg conomos 05-09-2012 08:00 PM

Agreed...the pics are too blurry. Those hammer marks on the water table are not too cool. It also looks like the stock might be cracked above the trigger guard area?

Either way, the gun is not in great shape...it looks like it might be fair condition.

Pete Lester 05-09-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 69434)
Actually, beginning with the Grade 5 or B Grade the barrel flats are often - but not always - stamped with a DD (likely indicative of "finest Damascus") rather than a single D and the grade numeral stamp of 6, in this case, is normally stamped closer to the breech end of the flats.

I prefer the DD's if they are original :whistle:

edward mccay 05-09-2012 08:10 PM

There is a small crack above the trigger guard. I would say it is in fair condition. But how many A6 in original condition. Even in fair condition I wonder how much I should pay.

Mark Ouellette 05-09-2012 08:58 PM

Edward,

It is very hard to judge without gun in hand or good photos. That stated, AH guns are rare and desirable. If the engraving is sharp, the barrels are not pitted or honed, and the stock isn't cracked and full of wood putty in spots you found a keeper!

Price range from $5,000 to $15,000, maybe more. I like 10 gauges so for me, and a few guys like me, that's a very desirable gun! Many others would not give a darn about a 10 gauge. To each their own.

An AH Parker sells for real money. It's best to get a mentor to help you value one of them. Why don't you state where you live and ask for the help of another PGCA member who lives close to you. You need someone who really knows the value of a high grade Parker.

Mike Shepherd 05-09-2012 09:14 PM

I let my Blue Book esubscription expire. Could someone post the range of prices for an AH 10 gauge from 20% to 90% condition? He has tried to comply with our requests but still doesn't have a price range.


Best,

Mike

Dean Romig 05-09-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by edward mccay (Post 69479)
Anyone have an idea what would be a good offer price for the gun?


First Edward, what does the owner expect to be paid for it?

Have you asked him or is he leaving it up to you to make an offer?

What amount would you part with in order to have it in your possession?

It is difficult from the poor quality of those pictures to discern the condition of every part of that gun in great detail, however, it looks to be well used and shows distinct signs of a good amount of wear.

Would you be comfortable with parting with $6K ? If so, make the offer... or are you afraid he'll accept your offer?

Just thinkin' out loud...

Gill Frye 05-09-2012 09:22 PM

A couple years ago at the Southern there was a similar AH and I think the price was 9500, I don't know if it sold or not. I do know that the dealer bought it for 7500 before he put it on his table, it was a 12ga. What I really liked about it was the half pistol grip with gold cap, I have a fetish for those.
Regards,
Gill

Stephen Hodges 05-09-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Lester (Post 69488)
I prefer the DD's if they are original :whistle:

But usually not, IMHO:eek:

Mark Ouellette 05-09-2012 09:23 PM

Yup,

An AH 10 for $6k is a good price if it is not a wreck. If you do not like it you should be able to get your money out of it and maybe more from someone who will enjoy owning it. Please keep me in mind. Heck, an AH 12 followed me home this week that you might like... :whistle:

Mark

George Lander 05-09-2012 11:32 PM

Judging by the apparent condition and with the limited information and blurred pictures I think that $4,000 - $6,000 would be fair starting point. That would leave some room for expert restoration. JMHO

Best Regards, George

Ed Blake 05-10-2012 07:59 AM

If this was on your website George, how much would you want to get out of it on an as is basis?

Ray Masciarella 05-10-2012 08:23 AM

For whatever it's worth, it looks like the stock has been replaced. I say that because it appears to have the later AH pattern. I don't think that affects it's value tho. It is what it is, a nice old gun.

Steve Huffman 05-10-2012 08:44 AM

Ok Im to lazy to get out my book nor do I remember but has the roll pin been switched on this gun or is it old enough that it doesnt have a slot ?

Bill Murphy 05-10-2012 09:17 AM

Ed, you probably have enough interest on this thread to resell it for a pretty good profit. Go ahead and make a reasonable offer then sell it to one of us. In the meantime, get some good pictures. Where was that attic?

Dean Romig 05-10-2012 09:55 AM

It is too early to have the slotted pin.

George Lander 05-10-2012 11:30 AM

Ed: I price the guns on my website on the basis of what I have in them. If I bought this Parker for 6K I would price it at 7.5K "as is". I try to make @ 25% over the cost.

Best Regards, George

edward mccay 05-10-2012 12:20 PM

Parker
 
Thanks for all of the helpfull information. I am going to buy the gun tonight. I will upload pic as soon as I get it home.

Mark Ouellette 05-10-2012 12:23 PM

I am already envious!!

Good for you Edward!

Russ Jackson 05-10-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 69434)
Actually, beginning with the Grade 5 or B Grade the barrel flats are often - but not always - stamped with a DD (likely indicative of "finest Damascus") rather than a single D and the grade numeral stamp of 6, in this case, is normally stamped closer to the breech end of the flats.

I knew I had a picture of this some where ,AHA ,Found It ! Russ

Ray Masciarella 05-10-2012 02:34 PM

I agree with dean that is has the correct pin.

I think I've been BH, AH and up gun with just a single "D" on flats, tho it would be usual apparently.

That gun would be a bargain, IMHO, at 4-6k.

Dean Romig 05-10-2012 09:59 PM

Thanks for the picture of the "DD" Damascus barrel flats Russ.

Ray Masciarella 05-10-2012 11:41 PM

Did you buy it?

Russ Jackson 05-11-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 69590)
Thanks for the picture of the "DD" Damascus barrel flats Russ.

Dean ,You are Welcome !! I knew I had a picture of the DD on the flats ,I wanted to post it closer to your post but overlooked it and had a few minutes today and went back and sure enough right there with the rest of the A Grade pictures ,right where I left it ! Man ,I hate when I do that !:banghead:

edward mccay 05-11-2012 05:24 PM

Bought the gun. It was in the guys family for four generations. It was originally on a plantion in NC. The gun cam with a photo album from the original owner. showing the plantion the owner with the gun and the farm workers. "It was very neat.

Dean Romig 05-11-2012 05:31 PM

It would make for a very fine Parker Pages article.

Please contact me at dsromig@aol.com if you would be willing to do this.

Dean

edward mccay 05-11-2012 05:32 PM

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edward mccay 05-11-2012 05:37 PM

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Ray Masciarella 05-11-2012 07:26 PM

Congratulations! Look like a fine gun. Wish it were mine. Did you purchase it with the price range suggested here? If so, you got a bargain.

George Lander 05-11-2012 11:58 PM

Edward: You did good! Especially since you got some history & even pictures of your Parker with it's original owner. To me that's just as important as owning the gun itself. Now see what else you can find out about it and do submit the results to Parker Pages. We would all enjoy reading about it.

Best Regards, George


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