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Bill Anderson 03-18-2012 07:41 PM

Great time to "buy" a Parker Reprodcution
 
Here is another of the many great buys lately for a Parker Reproduction since the economy went South.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=277395127

Of course if you bought your Parker Repro a couple years ago or so for an investment gun this is NOT good news to you!

Bill

Dean Romig 03-18-2012 08:01 PM

Nice wood...

That price is about what I would expect to pay for what that gun is.
Nothing wrong with it at all but it lacks certain qualities that I consider desirable (to my own taste).

Bill Anderson 03-18-2012 08:37 PM

Yes, it won't appeal to everyone, but it is $800 to a $1000 less than just a couple years ago for a similar 28" 20 gauge if my memory serves me right.

Bill

Phillip Carr 03-18-2012 10:23 PM

20 gauge magnum?

ron belanger 03-19-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Carr (Post 65312)
20 gauge magnum?

Apparently, the chambers are 3" allowing for a magnum shell...you can however still shoot 2 3/4's too!

Bill Murphy 03-19-2012 06:25 PM

Very early P gun with "getting started" checkering on forend. Great wood in buttstock. Screws are either prototype period screws or have been messed with a bit. I would rather pay another $500 for a later gun when the checkerers were better trained and practiced and the screw mechanics had made and installed a few more screws. A great piece of Parker Repro history at a reasonable price and 28" barrels. The color of the early Emebbi case lining is not a trick of the camera. The color was really that ugly. Thanks to the Skeuses, the lining problem was corrected very early in production. But that wood is really nice.

Dean Romig 03-19-2012 08:15 PM

Now that you mention it Bill, the slots in screws on the floorplate are much wider than on later Repros and the checkering on the grip and buttplate insert as well is all less than 'professional' quality.

Kenny Graft 03-26-2012 10:15 AM

It has been a good time to buy....Few months back I bought a 20 two barrel set PG-DT-SF in its case, about 98% had one bump at the toe...minor and easy repair. It was on gun broker with a start bid of 3850.00....no one bid against me...(-: It was special with the 26" barrels being Q1/Q2 I did not have that barrel lenth-choke combination......SXS ohio

Bill Murphy 03-26-2012 10:34 AM

If I weren't interested in a lot of other projects, I would consider an underpriced 28" 20 gauge. However, were all alike in wanting "exactly" the configuration we want, regardless of the price. I got mine in the closeout and don't need another one.

David Holes 03-26-2012 10:48 AM

I remember the closeout, Parker what? For that much. They did catch my eye but I was't buying. I wish I could go back now. Dave

Bill Davis 03-27-2012 12:32 PM

I remember being at the Grand American in Vandalia and seeing piles of Parker Repros being closed out at $1895 and up for combos. Jaquas and Guns Unlimited had them. Cape Outfitters were also selling them at the time. It was the deal of the century!

Greg Baehman 03-27-2012 01:05 PM

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Now is indeed a good time to purchase. But I agree with nid-28, the closeout sale was the real deal--I got in with a 28-ga. DHE.

Bill Davis 03-27-2012 02:32 PM

I had forgotten that single trigger guns brought a $100 premium. Times have changed!

ron belanger 03-27-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 66011)
Now is indeed a good time to purchase. But I agree with nid-28, the closeout sale was the real deal--I got in with a 28-ga. DHE.

What year was the closeout?? (not that I would have gotten a gun...just was not Parker "aware" at that time...:crying:)

Greg Baehman 03-27-2012 03:10 PM

I believe it was 1995.

Richard Flanders 03-28-2012 03:42 AM

I went in an Alaskan gunshop back then. The guy had 12ga repros lined up on the counter marked $2495 ea, said he couldn't give them away and begged me to just make him an offer on any or all of them.

Kenny Graft 03-28-2012 10:19 AM

I bought a 20 combo from jaqua's....it was a single trigger set. I had to take a loan to get it!....That was before I relized that I liked double triggers like my first gun dad gave me. I had beagles for hunting bunnys, Ohio had no ringnecks left by then! Never could work that selector with cold hands or with any speed! I sold it!!! That was 18 years ago.....I was 39 years old....(-: Times are better now...I have a nice collection of repro double trigger guns...a gordon setter pup.... hunt birds in Kansas and grouse in P.A. Now how to get back to age 39?.........SXS ohio

Chuck Heald 03-28-2012 01:32 PM

I picked up my first (and only) Reproduction 28" 28ga SST, straight stock, splinter from Jaqua's a couple yrs ago for $4k. I bought it with the idea of making it into a 410 with the CSM barrels I ordered before I bought the gun itself. Beautiful gun and I believe a best buy bargain for the money. An equivalent gun for gauge/price in a Spanish gun just can't hold a candle to a Parker Reproduction, IMO.

ron belanger 03-28-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Graft (Post 66053)
I bought a 20 combo from jaqua's....it was a single trigger set. I had to take a loan to get it!....That was before I relized that I liked double triggers like my first gun dad gave me. I had beagles for hunting bunnys, Ohio had no ringnecks left by then! Never could work that selector with cold hands or with any speed! I sold it!!! That was 18 years ago.....I was 39 years old....(-: Times are better now...I have a nice collection of repro double trigger guns...a gordon setter pup.... hunt birds in Kansas and grouse in P.A. Now how to get back to age 39?.........SXS ohio

:rotf:Ahhh...the age old dilemma...by the time we have the means we are losing the wherewithal...!! :crying:

Bryan Lusk 04-06-2012 01:12 AM

I'm a new member and just received this gun in which I am well pleased. This makes my third repro, two 20's and one 28. Thought 3 inch mod/full gun would be great on western pheasants.

Bryan Lusk 04-06-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Anderson (Post 65295)
Here is another of the many great buys lately for a Parker Reproduction since the economy went South.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=277395127

Of course if you bought your Parker Repro a couple years ago or so for an investment gun this is NOT good news to you!

Bill

I collect American doubles and have become addicted to Parker repros. They are great investments not to mention great handling hunting guns. I was searching for info on this gun and your post came up. So I joined, nice forum. The wood on this gun is unbelievable and handles great.

Dave Fuller 04-10-2012 12:04 AM

I've owned a few of them, some I paid up for and some I sold for a lot of money. The one that I love best is the close out gun from Jaqua's that I bought in the 90s for $1900.

Bill Murphy 04-10-2012 08:19 AM

The "Closeout" was the greatest gun sale in the history of double guns. My two barrel set 28 gauge came from Guns Unlimited. They were extremely helpful. They looked at three identical sets for me and picked out the one with what they described as "exceptional" wood. A few months later, they sent me snap caps that they had promised. That was quite a surprise.

Bill Anderson 05-24-2012 07:43 AM

Here is another "super low" priced 20 gauge Reproduction for those hunts this fall:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=288129684

Bill

Bobby Cash 05-24-2012 09:45 PM

How about this set?
 
What's the conventional wisdom on this fine set?

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Pro...n_id=100254324

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...254324-1-L.jpg

Greg Baehman 05-24-2012 10:26 PM

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ooooh, that's a nice one! 20-ga., 28", Q1/Q2 Repro barrel sets don't grow on trees. Lotsa moohla for those nice desirable sets, eh?

Notice the numeral font of the Q1/Q2 chokes on this set is a little different than others usually encountered. Here's how they're normally stamped:

Kenny Graft 05-24-2012 10:33 PM

That is a fine set with double triggers and two 28" barrel sets....The 20ga. 28" Q1/Q2 is a hard one to find....I own one and I know of one other set. Priced very close to the set I bought few years back, mine has a pistol grip-DT-SF both 28" Q1/Q2....Chuck is a great gun guy to deal with...thanks all...Kenny,,,, SXS ohio...(-:

Dean Romig 05-24-2012 10:41 PM

Greg, my 28" 20 ga Q1 & Q2 barrels are identical to yours and have none of those proof marks that the GI gun displays. Of course the GI gun is an early "P" repro and those were a 'horse of a different feather' so to speak, with certain attributes all their own. My 20 ga. Repro is 20-3524 and is a two-barrel set, 26" and 28" with both barrel sets Q1 & Q2.

Greg Baehman 05-25-2012 07:35 AM

Dean, that gun has English proof marks because it went to England, not because it's a P Repro. I had to do some checking on the proofmarks. Can’t recall ever having seen a Brit gun marked with “kg” rather than “bars”. Appears this one was proofed during the period 1985-89, when they were converting to metric marks (but you might still find the old “tons” proofmark) but before they standardized on “bars” vs “kg” (which mean the same thing anyhow). And that’s the magnum or superior proof. You wouldn’t have to worry about what you shot in that gun—not that you should anyhow, with a Repro.

Bill Murphy 05-25-2012 09:53 AM

The "P" is part of the serial number, right or wrong, generally agreed to be prototypes. Mr. Skeuse made comments on the P guns here a while back. The reason for the magnum proofs is that all 28" 20 gauge Repros had 76mm chambers. Nothing unusual about the proving of the gun, but the gun is of a very popular configuration and Chuck won't have it for long, even at that price.

Dave Suponski 05-25-2012 10:31 AM

Interesting gun. Seems to have an oil finish vs. the traditional high gloss. Yes...No...Maybe?

Bryan Lusk 06-04-2012 11:41 PM

Did anyone notice the 20 ga. that sold today on gun broker for 2950.00? It had choke tubes and was just wondering if that was a factory option or did the owner have them installed. The auction #288935531

Kenny Graft 06-05-2012 08:28 AM

Brian...the only repro factory model that had srew in chokes was the spoting clays classic in 12 gauge, 100 or less were made....Thanks Kenny SXS ohio

Robert Rzepiela 07-08-2012 04:40 PM

According to CPI inflation calc, today you would need just over $3000 to match purchasing power of $2000 in 1995. So the low "$3K" repos seems to be keeping up with inflation ...

Chuck Heald 07-09-2012 04:42 PM

RR,
If you consider that the low $3k guns are often moderately used and worn a bit, they are still beating inflation, since they aren't in "new" condition.

Steve McCarty 07-17-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ron belanger (Post 65342)
Apparently, the chambers are 3" allowing for a magnum shell...you can however still shoot 2 3/4's too!

I recall when the 3" 20 gauge magnum came out and people flocked to it. Apparently it put a big dent in 16 sales.

Lately however I hear guys complaining about their mag 20's and most shoot the older and shorter shell. The belief is that the mag 20 spits out a longer, narrower and rougher pattern. Not to mention that it "barks" like mad.

I own a new 870 that has a steel shot choke tube for the 3" steel shell and I may use it on geese. But usually I shoot the shorter shell.

As the following of the 3" 20 mag wains will the 16 come back? I hope so. I shoot old 16's and like them.

John Dallas 07-17-2012 06:23 PM

Bob Brister did some elaborate testing on 3" 20 gauge lead shells and concluded it was not a good combination. Very long shot strings

Bill Murphy 07-17-2012 08:00 PM

Since the "modern" 3" 20 gauge came out in 1954, I have shot hundreds of thousands of shotgun shells, not one of them a 3" 20. However, I do own a box of early 3" 1 1/8 ounce #6, just in case I get the urge.

Dean Romig 07-17-2012 08:17 PM

I used to shoot them at pheasants in the sixties but I always thought the pheasants were getting the better part of the deal, being on the other (softer) end of the discharge!

Chuck Heald 07-18-2012 02:11 AM

Well, I have at least 3 guns with 20g 3" chambers, maybe I oughta try a 3" shell someday. ...maybe.


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