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cole_bie 01-16-2012 06:48 PM

Another what do I have question
 
Hey guys my father is looking to sell his old Parker Bros. I went through this website's identification thing and was able to find out some things, however I am not an expert on older guns, so some of it was confusing. I did find out that it was manufactured in 1890. It is a P grade with the extractor option. On the rib it says "parker bros makers. meridian conn. twist." so I guess it is a twist barrel? I was hoping based on the photos you guys might be able to help me decide what I should ask for this thing. Seems to be in pretty good condition and from what I understand the extractor adds some value right? Anyway any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Link to photos.
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/cole_bie/

Sorry I know the pictures aren't the best.

Frank Cronin 01-16-2012 06:57 PM

Right off the bat, your Dad's Parker is an extractor gun not an ejector.

William Maynard 01-16-2012 06:59 PM

This is a "P" Grade. From what I can gather from the photos this shotgun has extractors not ejectors.

cole_bie 01-16-2012 08:39 PM

Oops, had a brain fart there. It is fixed now.

ed good 01-16-2012 09:53 PM

looks like a nice p grade with case colors in hidden areas. how long are the barrels? does it have a dogs head butt plate and how much does it weigh?

cole_bie 01-16-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed good (Post 60166)
looks like a nice p grade with case colors in hidden areas. how long are the barrels? does it have a dogs head butt plate and how much does it weigh?

It does have a dogs head butt plate and a 30" inch barrel. It weighs 7 pounds 2 ounces.

edgarspencer 01-16-2012 11:44 PM

What gauge is your dad's P grade? Maybe add a picture showing the bottom of the barrel lugs. There should be a number on the rear lug, with an 0, 1, 1 1/2, or2. Maybe even a 3 if it's a 10gauge. Looks to be in pretty nice shape, from what I could see.

cole_bie 01-17-2012 12:02 AM

http://imageshack.us/g/692/1000668umzq.jpg/ Link to new pics. I believe it is a 12 gauge. There is a letter T, then a number 3 to the 12th power, a small letter C above that. On the back as seen in the last two photos there is a 5 and a 1. Hopefully the pictures are decent enough to see the markings. Thanks for the help.

George Lander 01-17-2012 12:32 AM

If, in fact, your Dad's Parker is a 12 gauge gun it is a little unusual in that it is on a #1 frame with unstruck barrel weight of 3 pounds 12 ounces. Post the serial number & perhaps we can tell you more.

Best Regards, George

cole_bie 01-17-2012 12:53 AM

63541 is the serial number and I confirmed it is a 12ga.

edgarspencer 01-17-2012 08:45 AM

the 1 means it was built on a number 1 frame, which is what most 16 gauge hammerless guns were built on. That makes it a bit more desirable. That would make a nice walkup gun. I can hear all the bottom feeders now "Too bad it has those dangerous twisted steel barrels. It's just a wallhanger."

ed good 01-17-2012 10:42 AM

if i were marketing it for quick sale, i would list it on gunsamerica for $795 and see what happens?

George Lander 01-17-2012 02:12 PM

When selling an antique Parker such as yours you are really selling the barrels. If your gun's barrels are badly pitted inside (and unfortunately most are) Ed's value would be about right. If, on the other hand, the bores are not pitted the value could be double that IMHO. In any event your gun should be kept in the family if at all possible.

Best Regards, George

cole_bie 01-17-2012 02:16 PM

Well I see other P grades on GunsAmerica going for much more than 800, for instance this one.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/918584014..._GRADE_12G.htm

Or are you saying to start an auction at 800? I am not really interested in selling it quick.

George Lander 01-17-2012 02:21 PM

Wildwood is a dealer in fine guns and are normally priced at the top of the market.

Best Regards, George

cole_bie 01-17-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lander (Post 60240)
Wildwood is a dealer in fine guns and are normally priced at the top of the market.

Best Regards, George

Ah I see. Well sounds like I have some good info to go off of now. Thank you guys for all the help.

Eric Eis 01-17-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lander (Post 60240)
Wildwood is a dealer in fine guns and are normally priced at the top of the market.

Best Regards, George

Sometimes double.......:)

Bill Murphy 01-17-2012 07:06 PM

Maybe one step below "the top".

cole_bie 01-17-2012 08:43 PM

So it is either price at the top of the market, double the top of the market, or one step below the top of the market, haha.

George Lander 01-17-2012 11:28 PM

Well Cole_Bie: You asked for advice & you got some good ones. When it comes to antique guns nothing is written in stone. A fair price is what a seller is willing to take and what a buyer is willing to pay.

Best Regards, George

cole_bie 01-17-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lander (Post 60304)
Well Cole_Bie: You asked for advice & you got some good ones. When it comes to antique guns nothing is written in stone. A fair price is what a seller is willing to take and what a buyer is willing to pay.

Best Regards, George

That is absolutely true, my previous post was simply me observing that fact. I was not looking for an exact figure. I am more than happy with the advice I got and appreciate the help of everyone who contributed.


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