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Travis Newman 10-04-2009 07:47 PM

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I just purchased a CHE Titantic barrels with a fox flushing a bird. I thought it was unique because I haven't seen many with fox. Has anyone seen many Parkers with fox on them. Serial 114437 was part of a group of 4 Ch's all with Titantic steel barrels.

Channing Will 10-04-2009 08:26 PM

Travis,

Great find! The engraving pattern is a bit unusual, at least from what C grade guns Ive seen. What is the stock configuration? You dont see too many variations in animals on Parker guns. You can probably count the number of original Parkers with Rabbits on them with one hand, along with other animals like Fox and such. Maybe they especially avoided engraving Foxes on their frames because they didnt want to associate their product with a competing company.

Bruce Day 10-04-2009 08:44 PM

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At least one quarter of the early C's and all of the late C's had some unusual and often unique animal or bird on the floor plate engraving. I have not seen your particular gun before but it is certainly pleasing. At least half the B grades and all A grades I have seen have unusual animal or bird scenes, with the exception of those few guns that are entirely rose and scroll. A week ago I posted a photo of a C with a single mallard taking flight. I have a C with a single standing wood duck. Other themes include setters on point, falcons. woodcock, standing prairie chickens, etc. A good friend has one with outstanding engraving of a ruffed grouse in full display.

I know of about five guns in B's and A's with rabbits depicted. I'm sure there are others. About a year ago I posted an photo of the bottom of an A grade showing rabbits playing in a forest bower scene. On the trigger guard bow, a fox is looking intently at the rabbits. I have seen about 4-5 others with foxes shown.

Anyone see the sailing ship on the shorebird gun?

High grade Parkers are all about variation. That's why people collect more than one.

PS. I straightened the screw on the bottom Runge engraved C since this picture was taken.

David Dwyer 10-05-2009 07:59 AM

Beautiful C grade. Were all of the four C grades 12 ga?
David

Bruce Day 10-05-2009 08:05 AM

The wood duck is a 20. You saw it. The one not shown that has the ruffed grouse is a 20 and owned by a mutual friend. The Runge dog one is a 1 1/2 frame 12/28, straight grip, skeleton butt at 7lbs

Jay Gardner 10-05-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 4993)
The wood duck is a 20. You saw it. The one not shown that has the ruffed grouse is a 20 and owned by a mutual friend. The Runge dog one is a 1 1/2 frame 12/28, straight grip, skeleton butt at 7lbs

Ugh! It drives me crazy when you say things like this, Bruce!

Bruce Day 10-05-2009 08:51 AM

The rising duck C is a 12ga 1 1/2 frame, handled well. Was on Chuck Brunner's table ( Greene's Guns) at Vintagers for sale. I thought it was a very nice gun. PG and skeleton butt. Maybe not a grouse gun but a good all around 12 and I thought the price was realistic.

And I forgot and I wish I had kept pictures. Larry Frey has a stunning CHE with Gambel's quail on the floor plate....that's the quail with the top knot. What a piece.

Bruce Day 10-05-2009 09:18 AM

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A few more examples of the variation in C's. Here are three 20's. The top fluid steel one has a single setter. The middle damascus one ( in extraordinary high condition) has the deep cut ruffed grouse. The bottom damascus one has the wood duck.

All three of these are guns from here that had to be smuggled out of the east coast.

Travis's new C with the fox flushing what looks like a grouse is another wonderful scene and Travis you should be very pleased to have such a great piece of Parkerdom.

Larry Frey 10-05-2009 11:02 AM

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Nice gun Travis, I also love the variation in the floor plate engraving on grades C and above.

Bruce dont forget to save it this time.:)

Bruce Day 10-05-2009 11:24 AM

What a piece! I know of no other make that has as much variety and as nice engraving as Parker. Not the finest Brit guns, the rose and scroll full coverage is not near as interesting as Parker game and animal scenes, in my view.

I saved it this time Larry.

Gill Frye 10-05-2009 03:35 PM

#66202 has an otter with a fish in his mouth, according to the TPS this gun was made for the columbian expo, I'll post some pics later.

Russ Jackson 10-05-2009 06:53 PM

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This is my Latest addition CHE with Quail on the bottom of the receiver, and I also have a 10 Ga., D Grade, Hammer gun I recently purchased from one of the members of our forum with a Fox chasing on the side of the receiver.

Dave Suponski 10-05-2009 07:03 PM

You guys are killin me :crying: With all these wonderful C Grades coming out of the woodwork! I really need one of these "lawyers guns" All it takes is money I guess..:rolleyes: Congratulations to ALL you guys...:p

Russ Jackson 10-05-2009 07:09 PM

Dave; I keep buying these guns ,I am going to need a good Lawyer ! :eek:

Dave Suponski 10-05-2009 08:03 PM

Good one Russ...I kinda set myself up for that one....:rotf:

Travis Newman 10-05-2009 09:50 PM

I got the gun of Gunbroker last week I used the Buy it now. It was part of 4 Ch's that were all 12ga- 3 had 30in barrels and 1 had 32. It has a replaced stock and missing some internal forrend parts. The gentleman had the gun for 54 years and his uncle had it before him. I bought the gun to have a C in lifter damascus steel, top action in bernard steel , hammerless in titantic and single trap that is not marked. I don't know if I paid to much, but I liked the gun. I have a D hammer that has a rabbit and also one that has a fox. Here's the story I got from the gentleman.

A little family background on the gun. It was owned by a uncle of mine in Galveston Tx. He and another uncle of mine were drinking, got into an argument, and the owner got the gun and was going to shoot the other uncle who took the gun away from him and hit him over the head with it breaking the stock. Then the uncle that did the hitting took the gun. I was living in Calif in the 50's and saw the gun in his closet a number of times. Kept trying to get him to sell me the gun as he was not doing anything with it. Finally, in 1955 he got tired of me bugging him and said here, take the damn thing and get off my back. I had a gunsmith friend put on a cheap stock so I could use the gun and it remained in that condition until about 5 years ago when I located the D grade stock and had it installed. Anyway, I had not intended on selling the gun and had put "family gun, do not sell" on my inventory list. Then recently got to thinking if left to my son or grandson they would not be aware of the shorter chamber, and it would not be a safe gun to shoot with the normal 12 ga shells, so decided to put it on auction.
So, that is the story of the parker.
That's the story I got. I thought I would pass it on.

Richard Flanders 10-05-2009 11:25 PM

That engraving on Larrys gun is truly stunning. Lots of relief and incredibly pleasing to the eye. Absolutely gorgeous.


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