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tom boryczka 12-30-2011 10:34 PM

type of barrel
 
How does the type of barrel affect gun values. What is the best way to determine whether it can be fired? Any Parker gunsmiths in the Western New York are? Thanks for all the help. Sorry for all the questions.

Linn Matthews 12-30-2011 11:33 PM

You might want to contact Larry Del Grego lll, in Illion, NY. It is sort of midway across the State. The Del Grego family has been in the Parker business almost forever

tom boryczka 12-30-2011 11:46 PM

Thanks for the help greatly appreciated.

Pete Lester 12-31-2011 05:08 AM

I am pretty Larry DelGrego and Sons does not work on damascus and twist barrel guns. I believe they are old school and will not recommend any gun so configured should be fired.

Gary Carmichael Sr 12-31-2011 09:50 AM

J.B. I think you are right about them not working on damascus or twist barrels. and that's ok, some people don't because of the liability issue. As for me, I think Sherman Bell proved the world is not flat!

John Campbell 12-31-2011 10:12 AM

Hammer Gun is correct. It's "liability" for Del Grego. Not that they believe Damascus is inherently weak. Once again, lawyers make the world safer for humanity.

Best, Kensal

ed good 12-31-2011 10:36 AM

the key factors regarding the safe shooting of old guns is barrel wall thickness and ammo pressure.

any good double gun smith should have the tools to measure barrel wall thicknesses and based upon his experience, be able to determine the safety potential of a particular gun.

several sources are now making low pressure smokeless loads in the 6000 psi range, which roughly duplicates the pressure of black powder field loads. two of the most popular are rst and polywad.

as for value, guns with barrels other than fluid steel are generally worth less than guns with fluid steel barrels, all other factors being the same.

Dave Suponski 12-31-2011 10:42 AM

as for value, guns with barrels other than fluid steel are generally worth less than guns with fluid steel barrels, all other factors being the same.

Ed, Have you checked hammergun prices lately?

Bill Murphy 12-31-2011 10:53 AM

Why would a gun with those newfangled and dangerous fluid steel barrels be worth more than a Damascus barrelled gun? Talk about dangerous, what about those hammerless guns? We don't even know when they're cocked!

ed good 12-31-2011 12:26 PM

daze: it has been my experience that it is much easier to sell a fluid steel barreled gun than one with twist or damascus barrels. also, hammerguns are harder to sell than hammerless guns...all other things being equal of course.

ed good 12-31-2011 12:27 PM

murphy: using your logic, then muzzle loaders are best of all?

Dave Suponski 12-31-2011 04:18 PM

Ed,I think it has also to do with the circles you travel with. I have never had a problem selling either type.In fact I sold a few I really didn't want to. Good guns will always sell.

Bill Murphy 12-31-2011 05:40 PM

Ed, "sticks and stones". One of these days, all those dangerous fluid steel guns you've been selling are going to come back to haunt you. I guess they're OK if you stay below 5000 fps.

Brad Bachelder 12-31-2011 05:50 PM

Say what you will, believe what you will, but if you have never hunted with one of those confound composite barreled hammer guns, you have never hunted.

Brad

David Holes 01-01-2012 01:11 AM

I took a rooster and 2 quail with a hammer gun today. I have to agree with Brad

Jeff Kucinski 01-03-2012 03:52 PM

Tom,

Call Larry Schuknecht at Dutchman Woodworks in Clarence. (716) 741-3739 or try shoptalk@dutchmanwoodworks.com.

Jeff

Eric Eis 01-03-2012 04:04 PM

:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ed good (Post 58517)
the key factors regarding the safe shooting of old guns is barrel wall thickness and ammo pressure.

any good double gun smith should have the tools to measure barrel wall thicknesses and based upon his experience, be able to determine the safety potential of a particular gun.

several sources are now making low pressure smokeless loads in the 6000 psi range, which roughly duplicates the pressure of black powder field loads. two of the most popular are rst and polywad.

as for value, guns with barrels other than fluid steel are generally worth less than guns with fluid steel barrels, all other factors being the same.

Dave and Bill will you just shut up.....:rolleyes: this is the one tiime I will agree with Ed if it will bring down the prices of those dangerous barrelled guns.:rotf: We need more posts like this..... cause I am looking for another dangerous hammer twist barrel gun and I like to buy "cheap":)

Angel Cruz 01-03-2012 04:06 PM

I also agree with Brad. I do my hunting with a hammer gun, it's just freaking cool!!!

Dave Suponski 01-03-2012 04:25 PM

Eric.....:smiley7:

Eric Eis 01-03-2012 04:29 PM

Sorry Dave just could not resist.....

Bill Zachow 01-03-2012 06:51 PM

Update guys, the Del Gregos have been working on composite barreled guns for the past two years or so. Larry Jr. saw the future and decided to join the many other gunsmiths who were working on all the various types of Parkers. About two years ago, Larry Jr. recut the sear on my hammer G to eliminate the literal "hair trigger". If you cocked it and breathed on the right hammer, it "fired".


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