CHE found
 

Lords knows I need another shotgun like I need another hole in my head but here goes. I found a CHE at, of all places, Gander MT in West Palm Bch. It will take them a month of Sundays to sell it as The first thing the salesman tells you is that it can't be shot!!!

Anyway, its SN159917. 32" damascus barrels with at least 80-85 % pattern. Ejectors. Very little CCH but sharp/very nice engaving. Straight grip. Nice fgure and checking. Only downside is stock pinned. Good job but very obvious. Really nice unmolested gun.

What do you C grades colectors think its worth? If anyone is interested, let me know cause I hope I don't buy it!!! I'll give you contact info.

Thx, Ray

What are they asking for it? Is there any way to get pictures? I would want to check the wall thickness of the bbls befor purchase.

Can get photos if your interested. Would have to stop by or maybe I could get them to send to you. Price $3500. Right on the trickness. Tx, Ray

Ok, so I went back and had the manger pull it out of the case so I could get a good look since some of you may be interested. My earlier description is modified as follows. Has twin ivory beads. Barrels not pitted. Couldn't measure thickness. Stock repair good. Checking worn more then I thought but ok. Period Redhead pad. No CCH except under forend. Engraving worn on floorplate (which I couldn't see when it was in the case).

Nice gun to go shooting. I don't know what it is worth.

Thx, Ray

Sounds like a steal at that price,if sound.

You know, I think it could be. They just have no gumsmith on site to measure barrel thickiness. I know it could be bought for less then asking price, which is already a pretty good deal. It is a nice gun to go shooting with.

somebody better grab this gun...this is about the price of a d grade....id love to own it just aint got the cash rite now or this gunwould be in miss. instead of florida.... charlie

If the mgr thinks its unsafe to shoot I'm curious as to how he determined the asking price.

I would bet the "unsafe" = damascus

as for the price - unless they have changed the way they do it, it's a formula based on what they paid for it, which was based on a trader's guide.

Daggone. A CHE in that configuration for three point five thousand dollars? Obviously you would be doing the seller a favor by taking it off his hands. Run don't walk and buy it.

Manager says it can't be shot cause of Damascus. I tried to explain to him that it could but he thought I was nuts. I might go buy it today but don't need another Parker. If anybody wants it let me know and I'll go get it. Ray

I'm pretty sure that if you just go buy it someone here will mercifully put you out or your misery and take it off your hands....!

And you better hustle before the dealer smartens up...

And 32" bbls?! Straight grip?! Could be this gun is worth more than 3.5K parted out....

I am so tempted to call that store and buy.

I must resist temptation, I must resist temptation...

OOhhhh! Silence... lovely silence! I hear in the background the crackling of ozone in the air from frantic PM's flying, and the sound of phones melting down from ringing non stop! So, let us know who ends up with it, eh? Time to go plow some snow here; the sunlight is just peeking over the horizon...

Checked their website HERE You can get a nice VH 28 ga for 18,999. 14 Parkers shown. No CHE, so either not photographed and listed on the site or it's gone already. Suspect the "sounds of silence" will soon be over.

Better go buy that gun! or some good friend will do it for you . Not me, ain't got hammers.

I'd guarantee you that gun was sold within the first couple hours after the first posting about it and we'll never hear who bought it. It wasn't me.

DLH

Ok, I'll just go buy the rascal. The asst mgr has it on hold for me pending approval of my offer. They will never sell it. You can barely buy a 870 at this store. Tho, they do have several old Parkers. Two DHE 20 ga straight grips both horribly refinished for 12k and 18k. They are nothing but shooters at this point. I wonder how they ended up with them since they really don't even have a decent selection of modern shotguns (they sell mostly handguns).

Anyway, I'll have it in my safe tonight and figure it out later. I don't collect CH's and I don't know much about straight grips, 32" barrels, etc. Why would something order these features?

Thx, Ray

You should get a good seniors discount for an "unshootable" gun like that.

That's the spirit Ray!! I've had time to plow my pad and driveway, go sweep the planes and pick up my mail, and make a pot of tea and you don't own the gun yet??? Good thing you have it on hold! The seller has likely changed his phone number by now; got tired of answering it every 15 seconds...

As W C Fields once said "Never give a sucker an even break or smarten up a chump"

I one tried to explain a shotgun identification mistake to a Gander manager, he woudn't listen so I ended buying a high grade prewar Sauer for a pittance. Since I tried to be honest and he wouldn't listen, I left with a heck of a deal and a clean conscience.

Ut oh

Ok, went back. Mgr wanted to know what I did. He had over a dozen calls and two backups! I told him about my post and I think he's going to join to sell the rest of them!

Anyway, all the stir blew any chance he'd take my discounted offer (which the asst did pending mgr approval) but it's in my safe. I obviously don't know a good thing when I see it but I don't collect CH's except for one with Bernard barrels because I thought they were cool.

I'm embarrassed to tell you that I don't understand why this gun is so interesting.Is it the straight stock, twin ivory beads and 32" barrels? The price? Was it ordered by Elvis or something? (haha). Can someone tell me?

Anyway, I don't think I'll keep it since I obviously don't appreciate something good when I see it. Once I understand what I just did I'll first contact those who have sent PMs telling me of their interest if I didn't buy it. In fact those fellas can call me if they'd like to tell me about it. (and don't bother leaving a message with my boys or lovely wife cause I'll never get it-just call back). 5618326645.

In the meantime, I'm going duck hunting. They are finally here by the 1000s

Ray,
We wouldn't mind seeing a few pictures if you have a chance!

Chris, I will get photos taken and post them. Best, Ray

Only a dozen calls? Amazing. Who woulda seen that coming, eh? Sorry everyone ruined your chance at a discount on it. :corn:

You been spendin' time east of 140, south of 60 but still north or 49?????

I have. I spent quite a bit of time in Atlin BC in the 70's... and obviously picked up bad habits in the process! I've spent a fair bit of time in Canada above 70 also.

Not sure if there is sufficient population North of 70 for y'all to talk with to form a bad 'eh habit. More ptarmigan than people I'm thinking.

Don't think I saw even ptarmigan up there... just eskimos and fortunately they spoke English. The only thing they taught me was how to piss on the carburetor throat of a frozen Elan engine at -40 to get it to start.... very valuable lesson that...

Ok whats a Elan engine. I must no more my simple mind can't see how that can warm metal at 40 below. But I believe you just hard to understand.

Richard

No one here ruined anything. Heck, I created the stir by starting this this so i caused myself to pay a little more. Worth it too because the advice I got here was worth far more then the extra I paid. If this thread shows anything it is that I don't know what I'm doing at times. Thx for your concern tho.

Best, Ray

Calvin: An Elan is a small 250cc snowmachine. Doing what I said warms the carb throat just enough to remove frost that may be blocking the jet.

At least you got the gun Ray! And as long as the barrels are sound, you got a great deal. You can pass it on to someone if you like and tout it as "Swamp Angel II". Any of us would love to own it I'm sure.

I guess 40 below is not as cold as it sounds.

You never know who you will hear from. Was conacted by PGCA member who once owned the gun. Used it to shoot trap and crows. Said it was nicely balanced. He has letter that he is going to send to me. Apparently used by at least two different mid-west trap shooters and was factory restocked once. Maybe that's why it now has the period Redhead pad? Maybe the letter will tell me.

I'll try to post photos tomorrow for those who asked.

Best, Ray

Let me understand... you piss in the throat or on the outside of it?

Can this be done by an eskimo with an enlarged prostate??

My thought's, I'm going to have to get my 8th grader to do it! I think you would have to do it on the outside of the throat.

ray your a lucky man....sounds like the old gun has a lot of history behind it and the best part you can prove it.... charlie

I used to work for a vending company years ago, drove a supply truck for them. Every night I'd have to lock the truck up inside a fenced in area. When there was freezing rain or snow the padlock on the gate would be frozen every time. I'll give you one guess how I got it open on those cold nights.....

These photos are proof I know less about photography then I do about old Parkers-as hard it is to believe! Used my camera instead of having my friend, the pro, do them. But you get the idea.:eek:

Best-Ray