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scott kittredge 11-25-2011 04:21 PM

couldn't wait
 
checked bore dia. on my new to me lifter 10 ga. both bores .802. choked left .034, right .030. than i had to shoot it the stock has a slight crack but "one shot wouldn't hurt" so i loaded a 7/8th oz load of 8's with 15 grs 700-x and shot it at a 30 in target and got 94% pattern with it :shock: got to love the 10 . now off to repair shop and i will have it for spring turkey season i hope.:corn: scott

charlie cleveland 11-25-2011 08:08 PM

that old ten shoots like a rifle... charlie

Dave Suponski 11-25-2011 08:15 PM

Scott...Scott....:nono:

Mark Landskov 11-25-2011 08:32 PM

Scott, that certainly is a light load! I have been using an ounce of 7-1/2 in my Baker 10, which is choked full and full, and also get some deadly long range patterns. I can't wait to try them in my new 10, which is choked .049" in both barrels. Enjoy!

Eric Baker 11-25-2011 09:28 PM

Hey Chief,

At the risk of getting yelled at for asking a non-Parker question what kind of Baker do you have. Back in my gun trading days all my friends thought I should own every old Baker they came across, ended up with 4 total. Batavia Leaders in 20 & 16ga, a Batavia Brush Gun in 12 and a 1897 hammer gun in 12ga with 32" barrels with fantastic twist pattern.

Mark Landskov 11-25-2011 10:29 PM

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I have an 1893 vintage 'New Baker' hammer gun with the trigger plate action. It is odd looking, but very robust. I believe it was the same as the later 1896 Model. Your 1897 is a sidelock, isn't it?

Eric Baker 11-26-2011 12:27 AM

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Yes though similar hammers. Its one of 3 hammer guns that've been disassembled in bins on my bench for at least 4 years. Too many projects, not enough time. I put it together for these photos and remembered why it was apart. Broken top lever spring and right trigger bar spring. Check out those beefy muzzles! Bakers aren't as glamorous as Parkers but very simple and well made. Love that barrel pattern. Congrats on your new Parker, looks like a good one. My only 10ga is an 1878 Colt about a grade 3 I think.

charlie cleveland 11-26-2011 09:58 AM

i believe those are about the beefest barrels ive seen...now yall got me wanting a baker.... charlie

Robert Rambler 11-26-2011 10:55 AM

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Charlie, No need to cross over to the"Dark Side":). Brothers Parker built some hefty barrels as well. This is an 1887 10ga, barrels still weight 5Lbs 8Oz and the thin spot measures .055.

Eric Baker 11-26-2011 01:44 PM

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Unfortunately (for my bank account) I'm not so particular. I like them big, I like them small, if they have hammers, I like them all! Big: 1878 Colt 10ga. Small: William Powell & Son, Best Grade, Bar-In-Wood, 20 bore.

Robert Rambler 11-26-2011 02:06 PM

Same here Eric,was just funnin with Charlie.Most anything with sxs barrels and double triggers is all good for me. I think hammer gun style and design is simply timeless elegance.:cool:

Mark Landskov 11-26-2011 03:47 PM

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Eric, here are the muzzles of my 'New Baker'. These are the photos that the seller used for his advertisement. I have since cleaned and 'detailed' the gun thoroughly. It is a somewhat heavy gun. It falls between the Parker 3 and 4 frames. Cheers!

charlie cleveland 11-26-2011 07:09 PM

i think ive done crossed over into the dark side...i too love big and love small and even if they dont shoot i can hangem on the wall...all jokes aside there is a coupla bakers going pretty cheap on gunbroker rite now.... but i aint bid yet.... charlie

Eric Baker 11-26-2011 09:25 PM

All good stuff guys. Like that tall rib Mark. Can't wait to see your Baker post Charlie. I've been acumulating damascus and hammer guns since I got back from Japan in 93, before they got so trendy and everyone got so educated about them. Don't even go to gun shows anymore, can't use my favorite gun trading lines. "Damascus barrrels?!! Those aren't safe to shoot are they?" or "16 guage! Do they even make shells for that anymore?"

Eric Baker 11-26-2011 09:35 PM

Talking about timeless elegance, when I get a chance I'll shoot some photos of the 20 bore Powell and post them on the non Parker section. I don't think there is anything better looking but harder to make than a bar-in-wood gun, and a best grade in 20ga is the "holy grail" of british hammer guns.

Mark Landskov 11-26-2011 10:41 PM

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I am very fond of the 20, and agree, a bar-in-wood Best Grade would be great. For now, I am quite content with my 1929 vintage Trojan. It is a joy to carry when I walk 6 to 8 hours a day looking for grouse. John Puglisi has a few English SxSs in stock, but I never had the nerve to look at them. Temptation, you know!

Eric Baker 11-26-2011 11:37 PM

Mark, that's a beautiful Trojan, very high condition. What does it weigh? I love a light gun for hunting, my personal favorite is a 16 ga boxlock made in a small custom gunshop in pre-war Tokyo. Got it in Japan, had gun and hunting license there. It weighs 5 lb 8oz ! Lighter than the .410 double I bought last month. Its virtually unshootable on the range but great in the field, carries like a pool cue. Killed three pheasants in KS with it last weekend. You probably won't believe it but I bet you paid more for that Trojan than I paid for that Powell.

calvin humburg 11-27-2011 06:25 AM

Great guns! I really enjoyed the poems.

Mark Landskov 12-04-2011 03:32 PM

Eric, I have a 'shoestring budget' right now, so the little Trojan was quite an investment! Even so, if you came by a (Wm?) Powell Best Quality gun for the same, or less, good on ya! I love my Parkers, but always have my eyes open for a nice English SxS. Cheers!

scott kittredge 12-20-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scott kittredge (Post 55530)
checked bore dia. on my new to me lifter 10 ga. both bores .802. choked left .034, right .030. than i had to shoot it the stock has a slight crack but "one shot wouldn't hurt" so i loaded a 7/8th oz load of 8's with 15 grs 700-x and shot it at a 30 in target and got 94% pattern with it :shock: got to love the 10 . now off to repair shop and i will have it for spring turkey season i hope.:corn: scott

its is back for stock man and looking GREAT!!, now off to the goose and duck hunt, scott

Frank Cronin 12-20-2011 05:18 PM

Great news Scott.... look forward to seeing it at the Major Waldrons Jan 1st.

Dave Suponski 12-20-2011 05:20 PM

Pictures Scott!

Dave Suponski 12-20-2011 06:28 PM

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Scotts gun before repair.

Dave Suponski 12-20-2011 06:31 PM

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After repair...

Bill Murphy 12-21-2011 09:34 AM

Wow, what a great lifter. Straight grip and case color.

Gary Carmichael Sr 12-21-2011 08:22 PM

They look like 3/4" gal pipe they are so thick!

Pete Lester 12-22-2011 03:05 PM

Scott's take today with his new lifter.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...nner/photo.jpg

charlie cleveland 12-22-2011 03:39 PM

nice shooting.... charlie

scott kittredge 12-22-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 57722)
nice shooting.... charlie

i can't say i shot them all , but with some good calling from me and a square pellet from bob f , he got luckly and hit the hen in the head :rotf:

calvin humburg 12-23-2011 05:55 AM

Great wood on the ol girl. Blowing on calls is the most fun.

Pete Lester 12-28-2011 08:32 PM

Scott bagged another greenhead after a few wing shooting tips from Bob Fabian earlier this week.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...mermallard.jpg

scott kittredge 12-29-2011 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Lester (Post 58331)
Scott bagged another greenhead after a few wing shooting tips from Bob Fabian earlier this week.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...mermallard.jpg

boy, that cuts deep :cuss:

Dean Romig 12-29-2011 05:21 AM

Scott, does that gun have the small radius where the standing breech meets the water tables or is it a perfect 90 degree?

calvin humburg 12-29-2011 06:02 AM

A great gun with a lot of early evolution mecanics I'd like to have on one. What forarm latch were they useing when they made the change to radius and reinforcing ribs? Don't know if I see the rib on his.

scott kittredge 12-29-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 58369)
Scott, does that gun have the small radius where the standing breech meets the water tables or is it a perfect 90 degree?

it has the 90 on it.

Eric Baker 12-29-2011 12:40 PM

Great photo Scott. Old Parker with dead bird, should be on a Christmas card or something.


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