Colt SAA
 

Well, it's not a double but I thought I'd share this anyway.

I spoke with Wes Dillon this evening about bringing a certain SXS to him for the fall auction. But while I spoke with him I was on my way to a friend's place to pick up this really neat Colt so that I could bring it to Wes this weekend in Maine to consign it to auction at Julia's.
I don't know a whole lot about Colt revolvers but thought maybe someone here might chime in on it.

Very nice! It has the 'Blackpowder Frame' and traces of finish in the cylinder flutes. The screw heads look pretty good, too! A real nice, unbuggered SAA will command a small fortune at an auction. Is there a factory letter? What is the caliber? The number one choice was the .45 followed by 44-40, 38-40, 32-20 and the .41. There were dozens more, but they are very uncommon, like the .22 RF and .32 LC, for example. Has the front sight been filed? This modification is certainly not uncommon. One of my favorite shooters was a 99% SAA in .45 Colt, made in 1964. I had 2 Cimarron Ubertis in .44 Special (my all-time favorite revolver cartridge), too. USFA's Rodeo in .38 Special was my last SAA. My hands do not tolerate ANY amount of recoil anymore, so the SAAs all had to go. Nothing fills the hand as nicely as a SAA, real or reproduction! A brand new Bearcat is my new plinker. Cheers!

Just like a Parker, a factory letter will add more than its cost to the hammer price of almost any Colt. Colt letters are expensive, but some are well worth the price.

It is a first gen BP frame--
 

Std issue barrel length, not cut down? I have five in my collection (Thanks, Dad) three seconds in .45, two in .44-40-- Dad worked on a cattle ranch in Wyoming in late 1920's- when a ranch hand was paid $30 month and "found"- meaning room and board-- and the payday poker games meant someone wanted to sell his "Hogleg" for $10 cash money to 'tide him over" until the next time the "Eagle Flew"--most of the ones he bought for that sum back them were used as hammers, and mainly shot to dispatch broken legged steers or the occasional snake or coyote-I also have a 1851 Navy Cap and Ball and an 1860 Army Cap and ball- the later in .44 cal, the Navy is the "pipsqueak" .36 cal--all well worn, but like any Colt- all shooters--

My Army General of all generals- George Smith Patton Jr- shot 4 of Pancho Villa's desperadoes, included Villa's second in command- in Mexico -from horseback and while moving-- the four came from around a barn, while Patton's men were deploying armed with 1903 Springfields-- 4 shots, four dead bandits from a moving horse- no wonder General "Black Jack" Pershing called him, fondly- my Captain Sure-Shot- they came back to Ft. Bliss with the four dead cabrones draped over the hood of a Ford Model T--Patton could have carried the then new Browning designed Colt 1911 in .45ACP, but he stayed with his SAA Army .45 issue sidearm--

Many of the quotes from the 1970 Movie with George C. Scott as Patton were true, my late first father-in-law was a S/Sgt. in his 3rd. Army, and as he was fluent in German, was on Patton's staff roster as a NCO in charge of captured German soldaten-- and he told me the line about "Only a cheap pimp in a New Orleans Sportin' House would carry a pistol with a mother-of-pearl set of grips- his were Ivory--:bigbye::bigbye:

very nice old colt..should fetch a good price...me id want to keep the old colt... francis i met general pattons sargent mager that served with him in world war 2...told me some good tales about the general...shame he died about 2 years ago very nice and interesting fellow... charlie

Dean I would not consign that particular SXS to Julia's. It's a nice gun and I think you should be able to sell it personally. IF you do go the auction route at least put a reserve on it.

If it's actually for sale, why not list it here?

I did but only got "tire kickers".

It's a "Good Year" for kicking those tires-
 

-- ?? What is the sxs in question here. I only chimed in because I am a serious owner/shooter of Colts- both revolvers (SA and DA) and pistols- I have a 1911-A-1 Combat Commander from Bob Chow's bench in CA- and am looking an a NM 1911-A-1 that may have had the hands of Armand Swenson on it- all Colts are Steinways (OK- Dean is in Mass- make that Mason & Hamlin as well)-- just like in Carneigie, some are 'tuned" a tad different--

I am a bit taken aback that amongst the PGCA brotherhood, now that our BOD has graciously allowed us to post doubles for sale (something that apparently the Smith-sonians do not) Dean would get the Pirellis on his Volvo "booted"-- that sort of "peanut gallery" response I would expect on the DoubleGunWorkShoppe and the Gunz & Roses brokerage channel- where a % of the gents offering overpriced guns don't know extractors from ejectors, or a POW grip from a pistol grip-etc--

Come on Dean- give it another shot, and with fotos even. I'll betcha a hood ornament from a 1956 Volvo coupe you'll get some serious interest here on the PGCA--:bigbye::bigbye::cool:

Francis, an Iver Johnson .410 Skeeter isn't for everyone and my "tire kicker" comment wasn't meant to disparage anyone at all if that's what you were refering to as a "peanut gallery" comment. I poster it here before... with pictures. Maybe at Julia's we'll see what it is worth. :bigbye::bigbye::bigbye:

No--I was just curious as to what the "mystery gun" might be
 

-- You are right- a Iver johnson (Fitchburg, Mass perhaps?) skeeter in .410 cal. sure isn't-- I was just wondering what you had, besides your friends first series Colt SSA 1873-- Julia's will get you a good price for that "midget skeet-er gun" albiet with a "Heavy Vigorish". I knew Wes Dillon when he was one of the first of Dicky and Jimmy-boy Cabela's "gun Librarians" out in Sidney. NE. We had been out to Cozad, right on the Platte River, for fezz and ducks, and stopped into the newer op. out on I-80, and Wes gave us the grand tour- Good solid guy, Jimmy Julia did right in getting him as part of his high-end auction op.:bigbye::bigbye::bigbye::bigbye::bigbye:

FWIW I'd take good pictures and put it on Guns America and guns International befor it went to auction esp Julia's.

A lot less % to pay as well-
 

-- Or, if you belong to the NSSA and they allow ads for such fine guns in their publications- although, not being a "skeet-er" side-by-sides are probably not gonna fetch what a Win M42 skeet gun would--just my "shot"!!:cool::cool:

I've seen this gun and it's worth more than 6 M42's put together. Its a very nice gun and would look good in a certain safe here in Mi if it wern't for the owners flagarent use of his check book at the Southern and Hausmanns:whistle:

[QUOTE=Francis Morin;45663 "skeet-er" side-by-sides are probably not gonna fetch what a Win M42 skeet gun would--just my "shot"!!:cool::cool:[/QUOTE]

The best "tire kickers" were a lot kinder than that. :shock:

Thanks Rich, I appreciate the kind words. :cheers:

Ooops--my bad
 

:crying::crying::crying::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown ::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:- never have owned a "Midget Model 12" like the 00 frame 28 gauge Parkers, they are light, lithe and just right for some guys- me, I stay with the muzzle forward feel on 12 gauge M12's and 12 side-by's with 30" barrels- best for my shooting style- which ain't "skeets"--I saw a nice Iver Johnson "Hercules" ejector 12 at a gun show in March- good wood to metal fit- tried it with snap caps (seller is a good friend) good trigger pulls, ejectors in time--not a bad gun at all-:bigbye:

For you Francis

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...hlight=skeeter

Then you might like this one. Deep relief and Colt engraved Colt 1911 and .22 Conversion (early style) as a presentation set. The Engraver? Master Engraver Alvin White (yes, the Alvin White - not the son).

Enjoy....

;)

John

(BTW: Sorry for the hi-jack of this thread, Dean.. ;) )

Your welcome Dean. Its a very nice gun IMHO you should give the WWW a shot befor you go the auction route. I think you can sell this on your own.

I'll join Brother John on the "apology" as well
 

Me too- I only "jumped in" because I shoot SAA Colts (and others from new Haven as well). If I had realized you had tried to sell that fine looking .410 Skeeter before and got your "Dunlops Dinged" I would have passes. Rich is right, IMO anyway, a gun in that Minty condition with matched set of barrels and forearms, like the stunning Alvin Linden 1911-A-1 masterpeice, just doesn't come along every now and then. My Combat Commander shows lotsa wear, I use a Yacqui style slide when I carry- but it shoots right where I point- Had a chance to buy a Colt Ace .22, passed on it, big mistake--:crying::crying:

"Holly-wooded" Colts and da bros. Coen already??
 

Both "Fargo" and "No Country For Old men" had the weaponry right, and proper function of both wheelguns and pistols- etc. Just watched the DVD of the remake of the old "Duke" Wayne classic- "Rooster Cogburn- True Grit" last night-- Jeff Bridges made old Reuben Cogburn seem real and alive- great job- Matt Damon as the "Dudley Doo-Right" Texas Ranger- with a Sharps single shot carbine (not a Win 1873 like Rooster used)- even the bad guy with the Henry brass rifle slung with a length of clothesline- BUT- two technical "Flubs" IMO-- First- when Mattie rides her pony Blackie arcoss the deep river, where was the Dragoon Colt .44 and the flour sack? How did she keep it from getting wet? Rooster's Colt SAA .45 with contained cartridges, getting wet it would most likely fire- but any cap and baller- water gets into the cylinders and the powder gets wet- No "Dead Bang"-- she did get off one shot with it at Tom Chaney (after he stupidly tells her how to firct cock the hammer) and at that range, a hit in the midriff with a .44 (The Dragoon was a scaled down version of the fabled Walker Colt) might do more than bust up a rib--

Later, when she finally gets the chance to kill the man who murdered her father, she pick's up the Sharps carbine that Ranger LeBouef used to shoot dead at 400 yards "Unlucky" Ned Pepper from his saddle, BUT- she never opened the breech, ejected the fired empty case, and reloaded- she just pulled back the hammer to full cock, kissed the trigger and sent Tom Cheney "To Hell on a shutter"-- Huum- Hollywood-go figure-- Love to own that Dragoon however-fine weapon for its era-:bigbye:

Hi Francis.
To hell on a shutter i do like that one a great line.
I can think of one or two i would like to see on one .
All the best Dave.

Indeed it is--
 

But I can't take credit for that, in all good faith, David. There have been several movies made in the last 20 years about Wyatt Earp and the OK Corral shootout with the Clanton gang- that line was said by "Ike" Clanton to Virgil Earp (played by Sam Elliott- great Western gravely voice-) in the saloon, Ike was drunk after a losing bout of poker with John "Doc" Holliday (played by Val Kilmer)-- Another great one comes from my all-time favorite Western-- "The Outlaw Josie Wales"-- uttered by John Fletcher (played by John Vernon) to the corrupt Senator Jim Blaine-- "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin'--That movie was flawless in its Hollywood armory and the stage armorers- I have the special Directors edition and Clint Eastwood details the later 1866 era weaponry- loved those two Walker Colts Josie carrioed- at almost 3.5 lbs. loaded/each- took a real man to shoot one--

A later movie, also starring and directed by Clint Eastwood- "Unforgiven" does mention a failing of the 1847 era Walker- not uncommon for the early Cap and Ball revolvers- and a chain fire- wowiee-- might as well be playing Frisbee with frag grenades sans pins- But there is one error in that great movie- it takes place in 1881 in Big Whiskey, Wyoming- the posse tells the sadistic sheriff (played by Gene Hackman) that the "general store won't give us the 30-30 shells on credit- 13 years before the .30WCF made it's debut in the great Model 1894 rifle-- most likely- it would have been .44-40 they were using in M1873 Winchester rifles in 1881-

I agree, I have encountered a few unpleasant folks that in a moment of rashness, have thought I'd like to sent to "Hell on a shutter"- but then I stop and the wisdom of Confucious kicks in- and I repeat his words of advice re: Revenge-- "When you set out on a journey of revenge, it is best to dig TWO graves before you depart"--We are lucky, indeed, are we not, that we can't be arrested for what we might think we would do- only if we do it or plot with others and are then found out--:bigbye::bigbye:

Hi Francis.
Like you i love good cowboy films plus war films to but if the guns are not of the correct
period or the uniforms are dodgy it kills it for me. Modern films seem more accurate with
guns ect' than the older ones. Please don't get me wrong some old black and white ones
are real classics and you can give them a bit of theatrical license. Most of the ones you
like i like to but Francis don't forget SHANE i love that film.
All the best Dave.