reloading 16 ga
 

Any recommendations using these hulls for a low pressure load?
Powder? primer? wad? My original Trojan was lengthened to 2 3/4.
Thanks :)

If you should decide what wad you want I may be able to help you out . I have four different 16 gauge wads and darn near a case of each . The WIN WAA16 , the Claybuster knockoffs of the WIN wad in both 1 ounce and 7/8 ounce as well as over a case of REM SP-16 wads .

I buy those Fiocchi hulls as NPEs from BPI. They publish plenty of loads. I use their SG-16 was, and a powder no longer available, so my recipe won't help you but my 2.5", 7/8 oz loads are delightful. Years ago, I had them tested using 7625, and PB is virtually the same at about 6700psi.

Those are nice factory loads for fluid steel barrels, I like them, but generally shoot 7/8 and 3/4 oz reloads. Luckily have appropriate powders., what powder is available for you?

For what it’s worth, the last time I tried reloading Fiocchi hulls, several primers separated from the hull. The fit was not tight enough. The hulls were 12 gauge.

-Victor

If you are shooting them thru a Trojan witn 2 3/4" chambers, I wouldn't worry about the pressure. If your worried about recoil, the pressure does not enter into the equation.
I do have the 16 ga forum low pressure loads info on my home computer and will look up the Fiocchi info.

I really appreciate the helpful responses. I have the Claybuster CB0100-16 wads and Win 572 and Hogdon Perfect Pattern on hand and Win 209 primers. I have Cheddite 209 primers and Longshot on order. So whatever works :)
It's a puzzle when many options are out of stock or discontinued.
Thanks in advance,
Clark

Clarke, I find no loads listed in my spreadsheet for Win 572 or Perfect Pattern, but the spreadsheets are about ten years old. There are some for Longshot ( often called Loudshot, but never loaded it.
Wondering if I can send this file to your email, if you send me your email by pm, I can try. I also have some printed off that I will also try to take a picture of and post here.

I have a big file of all different hulls, powder, primers, and wads marked low pressure that I can send to your email.
Here are some other loads I had printed.

Try this again

I started loading the 16 using WIN WSF about the time WIN brought out the WAA16 wad . Since that time I’ve used Universal Clays some , Unique a fair amount , SR7625 a fair amount and maybe 8-10 pounds of SR4756 in a load the guy I bought several thousand WIN smooth red AA style hulls from . It’s worth noting all the 16’s I loaded were ounce loads .

On its way Clarke, hope it's useful. Also have files of regular pressure loads. Theses all came off the 16 ga Forum years ago

Clark, are those the only hulls you have, or that you prefer to load? Seems like worlds open up for the 16 with 2 1/2" Cheddite hulls. I've loaded those in 12 and they're good for one reload, seemed a bit floppy after that but that might just be a faulty observation as I was just starting out. I can reload Cheddite's a number of times and STS or Gun Clubs like 45,000 times.

I have some of these Fiocchi to use up, didn't want to just throw them out, but I may wind up doing that. I also have some 2 1/2 RST which Im guessing are the same as Cheddite.
I have some 2 1/2 cheddites ordered as well.
Just got my 16 ga loader last week. Anxious to get started !

Hahahaha!! I was there. Now I can fill a landfill with hulls I will never use. My simple advice is get a short kit for the MEC and stick with 2.5 cheddite. If you need any I can send you some PM me.

I throw my Cheddites out when I get too embarrassed when people see how dirty they are. My Scots family would deny any relationship.

Clark,

Here’s a low pressure 7/8 oz load with Cheddite 2 1/2 hulls and longshot FWIW..

Brett

That looks like a nice low pressure load, Brett, I think I'll try it.

Harold,

I should have mentioned that these loads were
roll crimped. I have similar loads with Unique, Universal Clays and Green dot as well.

Best,
Brett

Thanks Brett,
From what I have seen, it just seems the way to go to use a 2 1/2 cheddite….the short kit is going on the MEC !

Hi. Brett and thx for sharing your load data. Just clarifying you use a .045 card on top of the powder and another on top of the shot?
Thx

Rick,

Yes, that’s what I did. I used the card over the powder to keep it in place. It probably isn’t needed, but that was my thinking.

Brett

thank you. I will try these next.

Always like new to me recipes.

2 1/2” cheddites using a Mec Short kit.

https://i.imgur.com/irRdxBx.png

What is the entry for "overshot device" and where does that go? On top of the shot?

“Pinto Bean”
Goes on top...Gives a better crimp for 7/8 oz shot.

I shoot standard field loads thru my 20 ga Trojan without any issues.

All sorts of useful things in the pantry - chick peas!

I love it. I use small pinto beans. That way if I miss I might be planting something.

Clarke
I had the following issue with the Focci 12 gauge hulls. They are somewhat flimsy compared to AA.
I had a bunch of them that I cut down to 2-1/2 inches and reloaded them.
While I was shooting them the gun (Parker ) would not close completely.
I witched to another gun ( not a Parker) and they worked fine.
Once I got home I check the other shells I had reloaded and found about 1/2 of the had the same issue .
I then tried them in other 12 gauge guns.
What I found out was the metal base seems to have a variance in the manufacture.
So they all worked fine in old hammer guns and they worked in a Blaser and Kreighoff.
I would try them once you have deprimed and resized the case and see if the fit in your gun.
I have discarded the ones I have and will find another hull that works.
Bob

Would this be fixed with a Sizemaster Bob? I have a 12g Sizemaster and I had that issue but once it was fired in that Parker they didn't need to be resized again. They weren't Fiocchi though, I believe they were once fired Cheddite. It was only in one VH I have that gave me an issue with that hull. I did not fire the Cheddite they were given to me so I have no idea what chamber they came from and if they had expanded to fit that chamber. I hope this makes some sense.

Bob, I think the solution for me is to keep it simple. I'll use up the Fiocchi I have and discard the hulls. Going forward I stockpile the RST for the 16 ga. It seems the best recipes for 16 ga are for the 2 1/2 hulls.
Thanks, Clark