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Johnrussell 10-31-2025 09:51 PM

Are VG Trojans really selling for $1500?
 
I have a really nice 12ga Trojan with most of its original finish that I hunt with and never felt too bad about taking it to the marsh duck hunting but recently looked at some of the prices folks were asking for these guns. I always looked at Trojans as $600 guns in vg condition with good case colors and bluing, did they really go up that much in value or are these wishful thinking prices? I might have to retire the Trojan to upland hunting and promote the Husqvarna’s and Lefever to waterfowl work, lol.

Jim DiSpagno 10-31-2025 10:06 PM

Look at the sale prices, not the asking prices to get a handle on what they are bringing.

Johnrussell 10-31-2025 10:13 PM

I suppose you are right. Sold guns are the only way to tell for sure. I wouldn’t sell or put away my Trojan anyways, it’s a great gun.

Jim DiSpagno 10-31-2025 10:53 PM

No but it's nice to know it's value anyway.

David Livesay 11-01-2025 08:25 AM

trojans
 
Here's a 16 ga. that recently sold that I thought was a nice shooter. I bid $950 and came up short. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1132873079

Bill Murphy 11-01-2025 08:26 AM

If you think Trojans are overpriced, try pricing early 870s.

Andrew Sacco 11-01-2025 08:48 AM

I paid $1800 for a very nice original 16g Trojan a few years back and while it may have been a bit over priced I have zero regrets as it's a great gun and a dandy shooter and anyone who picks her up wants her. So it's what the selling price and the buyer at the other end agree on.

Paul Ehlers 11-01-2025 09:22 AM

What it really comes down to is Condition-Condition-Condition!

It's fairly common to see a high-condition Trojan sell for $2000.00 or more and then assume their well-used & loved gun will bring the same money.

Then there are the sellers on a fishing expedition looking for an uninformed fish to bite, while their gun constantly gets relisted time & again for months or sometime years.

I've never understood the logic of pricing something so high that it's constantly for-sale rather than sold:shock:

Daryl Corona 11-01-2025 09:22 AM

I've always said that if it's a solid gun, you don't pay too much you just pay early.

Johnrussell 11-01-2025 10:11 AM

I agree with that.

Brian Dudley 11-01-2025 11:31 AM

I have sold true 95% trojans for far more than that.

Daryl Corona 11-01-2025 11:56 AM

You can also buy a Turkish import for more money but you won't get the quality of the Trojan or Fox's lowest grade, the Sterlingworth in that Turkish import. It boils down to what floats your boat.

allen newell 11-01-2025 03:47 PM

I enjoy shooting my 20 ga Trojan even tho I have higher grade parkers

Bill Murphy 11-01-2025 04:04 PM

Apologize for mentioning, but high condition $2000 to $10,000 Trojans are about collecting, not shooting. I like both types.

Daryl Corona 11-01-2025 05:24 PM

Life's too short to be a collector.:)

allen newell 11-01-2025 07:48 PM

Collecting isn't my game. Bird hunting over my English setter is

Channing Will 11-01-2025 11:13 PM

Friend of mine often said “I never overpaid for a gun that I really wanted!” Life is short, if it’s something you like and think you will enjoy don’t hesitate to take it out and shoot it.

Bill Murphy 11-02-2025 04:19 AM

My accumulation is a shooting collection. Some are worth more than others. They all get shot.

todd allen 11-02-2025 10:25 AM

I bought a very nice 20 gauge Trojan with 28" BBLs a couple of decades back for close to 2k.
Top dollar? Maybe, but I have never regretted it. I'll never forget one hunt in particular, walking a deep irrigation canal, a German Shorthair working the brush on either side, and my friend Chuck walking the path another layer of brush away, keeping the birds in check.
The Trojan was a joy to carry, and very lively. Those dogs, and that friend, now gone, but the little gun is still in my safe.

Harry Collins 11-02-2025 10:41 AM

I recently purchased a 16 gauge Trojan for $1,700. The video I saw it in it was advertised as a 20 ga. I didn't mind as I now have a set of Trojans 12, 16 and 20. I have some very nice Parkers, but the truth be told I would be happy shooting just Trojan's.

todd allen 11-02-2025 11:13 AM

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Here is my little 20
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John Allen 11-02-2025 11:52 AM

Gauge and condition are what drives the price on any gun. A 20 Trojan will bring 4 times the price of an equal condition 12. A 16 will bring twice the price of a 12. That is just the nature of the market today.

David Noble 11-02-2025 01:43 PM

I purchased a 16ga Trojan approximately 6 years ago from one of the bigger auction firms.
It was an all original gun with 28" mod/full chokes, 15% case colors and 85% blue finish on the barrels. the wood was solid and uncut, with normal wear to the finish. 1919 date of manufacture so had the doll's head extension. My low ball bid was $450 and was the only bid. With buyers premium of 15% and shipping I was into it for $575.

todd allen 11-02-2025 02:08 PM

That was a steal. Maybe grand larceny level - LOL

Stephen Hodges 11-02-2025 04:05 PM

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I think Trojans are under appreciated. I really like my original 20 gauge with 28" barrels.

allen newell 11-02-2025 04:19 PM

I have a very nice 20 ga Trojan that I had Dan and Ryan Cullity freshen up some years ago. I probably shoot this Trojan more than any of my other Parkers. Comes up nice

Craig Larter 11-02-2025 05:26 PM

I do not own a Parker Trojan, but to me the sceaming buy in todays market are the 16's. There seem to be way more 30" 16's versus 30" 20's so if u want longer barrels in a small bore at half the price of a 20ga consider 16's. The only downside is a few onces heavier and ammo avaliability which is easily attainable by reloading or RST. Now if you want a 16ga that weights less than a Parker 16ga, consider the Fox Sterlingworth 16ga, a best buy in my opinion.

Daryl Corona 11-02-2025 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 438340)
I do not own a Parker Trojan, but to me the sceaming buy in todays market are the 16's. There seem to be way more 30" 16's versus 30" 20's so if u want longer barrels in a small bore at half the price of a 20ga consider 16's. The only downside is a few onces heavier and ammo avaliability which is easily attainable by reloading or RST. Now if you want a 16ga that weights less than a Parker 16ga, consider the Fox Sterlingworth 16ga, a best buy in my opinion.

Great point Craig. I've since convinced a noted Parker member who frequents this forum and now visits the Fox site. I sold him a 20ga Fox and he is now sliding down the rabbit hole. I thing a 16 is in his future.:)

Stephen Hodges 11-02-2025 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 438342)
Great point Craig. I've since convinced a noted Parker member who frequents this forum and now visits the Fox site. I sold him a 20ga Fox and he is now sliding down the rabbit hole. I thing a 16 is in his future.:)

"??????":rolleyes:

Bill Murphy 11-02-2025 06:46 PM

What is the production of 30" Trojan 16s versus 30" Trojan 20s?

Daryl Corona 11-02-2025 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hodges (Post 438343)
"??????":rolleyes:

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

Phil Yearout 11-02-2025 08:45 PM

I paid $950 for my Trojan 16 a few years back. It’s far from collectible but I wouldn’t take the prices that are being mentioned here for it.

Dean Romig 11-02-2025 10:26 PM

Three years ago I paid $1,200 for a beater 20 ga. Trojan. The wood was painted with a brown pigmented varnish, but the screws were very nice and it was nice and tight. I would pay easily the same today. I like the gun!




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Stan Hillis 11-02-2025 11:20 PM

What does a 20 ga. Trojan with 28" barrels weigh?

Jay Oliver 11-03-2025 09:12 AM

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What does a 20 ga. Trojan with 28" barrels weigh?
Stan the 28" 20 gauge Trojan I have weighs 6lbs even.

It's a wonderful gun I bought for my son before he could walk. It is exactly 100 years older than him made in 1913 with the rib extension. Choked IC/M

I try not to shoot too often as I am afraid I will fall in love with it! It just doesn't miss. He'll be shooting it in the next year or two.

Larry Stauch 11-03-2025 11:21 AM

$600 16 gauge Trojan with 28" barrels
 
Even in this condition, I thought this was a good buy. I think someone got a good shooter. You can't get anything for $600 bucks.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=103274219

Dave Noreen 11-03-2025 12:10 PM

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The Trojan was offered in very limited specifications. In the early years, only 28-inch barrels in all three gauges and the option of 30-inch barrels in 12-gauge. The 1913 flyer --

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Circa 1915/6 --

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By 1923 they added the option of 26-inch barrels --

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The 1930 catalog --

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A couple of years before they dropped the Trojan Grade, Remington offered a single selective trigger --

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The A.H. Fox Gun Co. offered their entry-level gun, the Sterlingworth, in all four barrel lengths in all three gauges as well as the option of ejectors and from 1914 onward the Fox-Kautzky Single Selective Trigger.

James L. Martin 11-03-2025 12:44 PM

I have 2 20ga Trojans both with 28" barrels, they weigh 6lb 2oz and 6lb 4oz. They are great guns. If your looking for a 20ga Parker at a reasonable price look no further. They shoot and feel like any other 20ga Parker.

Dave Noreen 11-03-2025 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 438346)
What is the production of 30" Trojan 16s versus 30" Trojan 20s?

According to the table on page 246 of The Parker Story there were three 16-gauge Trojans built with 30-inch barrels and one of the two 28-gauge Trojans had 30-inch barrels. Have any of these guns surfaced?

Harry Collins 11-03-2025 05:31 PM

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This is the 20 gauge Trojan Papa found under the Christmas tree. The checkering is nearly worn off from use and the barrels shiny. It remains tight as a drum. No one would know that I love this little gun. I started shooting it 65 years ago.


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