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Craig Larter 08-13-2025 01:46 PM

AH Fox XE 16ga 30" circa 1914
 
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A new addition to my Fox family.

Daryl Corona 08-13-2025 01:53 PM

Spectacular.:bowdown:

Randy G Roberts 08-13-2025 03:13 PM

That's a gorgeous Fox, congrats on your find....

Steve McCarty 08-13-2025 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 434633)
A new addition to my Fox family.

Teddy Roosevelt took one to Africa. That is an outstanding testimonial.

Dan Steingraber 08-13-2025 03:40 PM

Beautiful Fox. And another small bore. Welcome to the dark side.

Bill Murphy 08-13-2025 04:06 PM

Craig, can you post a copy of the record card? I have to know.

Reggie Bishop 08-13-2025 06:39 PM

Craig that one looks like a perfect fit for your collection.! Beautiful original Fox!

Larry Stauch 08-13-2025 09:47 PM

Beautiful Fox
 
What a gun! The wood; the checkering; THE engraving!

Dave Noreen 08-13-2025 10:02 PM

Gotta love those early smallbores! Are the barrels Krupp or Chromox?

Craig Larter 08-14-2025 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 434675)
Gotta love those early smallbores! Are the barrels Krupp or Chromox?

Krupp

Garry L Gordon 08-14-2025 06:32 AM

What a wonderful 16. I vacillate between CE a XE engraving as my Fox favorite. After looking this one over, I’d say the XE.

What will you use it for—Texas wild Bobs, I hope.

Dan Steingraber 08-14-2025 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 434681)
What a wonderful 16. I vacillate between CE a XE engraving as my Fox favorite. After looking this one over, I’d say the XE.

What will you use it for—Texas wild Bobs, I hope.

My guess is that beautiful Fox is going to get to share a short boat ride with Nellie and get a chance to harvest a duck or 2 this fall.

Chris Robenalt 08-14-2025 10:50 AM

Very nice Craig! I was drawn to the eschetuen, I think i blew the spelling, but is this a snap on forend ejector like the Sterlingworth? I've never seen one on graded Foxes, except for Sterly customs such as Phil Carr's 20.

tom tutwiler 08-14-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 434644)
Craig, can you post a copy of the record card? I have to know.

Bill, the third photo down has the card shown on a tag.

Brett Farley 08-14-2025 03:11 PM

Craig, stunning XE w/lovely barrels!! Man Oh Man!!

Keith Sirmans 08-15-2025 02:31 PM

Man that nice nice!

Phil Yearout 08-15-2025 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Robenalt (Post 434690)
Very nice Craig! I was drawn to the eschetuen, I think i blew the spelling, but is this a snap on forend ejector like the Sterlingworth? I've never seen one on graded Foxes, except for Sterly customs such as Phil Carr's 20.

My Fox A grade 20ga has the snap off forend; I don’t know what years they were made that way.

Craig Larter 08-16-2025 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Yearout (Post 434736)
My Fox A grade 20ga has the snap off forend; I don’t know what years they were made that way.

The snap on Kremer designed forend was used from about 1912 to 1915 on the graded Fox small bores.

Dave Noreen 08-16-2025 11:28 AM

In the graded 20-gauge guns I've recorded snap-on/-off forearms through about the first 700. In graded 16-gauge guns I haven't recorded any guns in the 3005xx and 3006xx range and by the 3007xx range I see Deeley latches. Actually 300590 has a Deeley latch but it has been so completely CSMC'd that I don't count it.

Not to say I haven't recorded a handful of Deeley latches in these ranges.

Craig Larter 08-16-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 434681)
What a wonderful 16. I vacillate between CE a XE engraving as my Fox favorite. After looking this one over, I’d say the XE.

What will you use it for—Texas wild Bobs, I hope.

The sweet spot for American doubles for me are the Fox XE's and Parker BH's prior to WW!.

Rich Anderson 09-19-2025 01:56 PM

Congrats on another fine small bore. I hope you bring it to Georgia in January.
I have some 3/4 oz RST 16's along, perfect for Quail and an XE 16:bowdown:

Mike Poindexter 09-19-2025 11:34 PM

A beautiful gun! Did you by chance measure the down pitch of the barrels? Appears like it may be minimal from the pictures.

Craig Larter 09-20-2025 05:58 PM

How do u measure pitch? I put the butt on the floor and measure off the wall at the muzzle.

Mike Poindexter 09-20-2025 07:35 PM

Same. Butt flat on floor, top of action against wall, measure from wall to center of bores at 28". My own preference is usually around 3", but many guns show less than that, down to about 2. Anything less than 2" doesnt work for me. Others like it that way, however. Depends on your individual neck and shoulder geometry it seems.

Craig Larter 09-21-2025 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Poindexter (Post 436092)
Same. Butt flat on floor, top of action against wall, measure from wall to center of bores at 28". My own preference is usually around 3", but many guns show less than that, down to about 2. Anything less than 2" doesnt work for me. Others like it that way, however. Depends on your individual neck and shoulder geometry it seems.

I get a measurement of 1 5/8"


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