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What do you think of this one?
https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=103181792
Lovely engraving, are there similar Parker engraved guns? The Parker Bros looks a little different to most, but I’m no expert. Interesting that it’s said to be choked skeet in and skeet out.. on a gun made in 1920. However he doesn’t show any of the markings.. Interested to hear how the experts react! |
Where are the pics of the barrel flats and the water table?
The "SKEET IN" and "SKEET OUT" stamps, if they really exist, would ruin any collector value IMHO. . |
Dean, could a gun have gone to Remington for choke work and have been stamped at that time?
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Never say never but without any Remington records of it (and there aren't any) it is wide open to anyone's interpretation as to how or why it was stamped that way.
A standard Parker Skeet gun would (should) have a single selective trigger, a beavertail forend, twin ivories (maybe) at the least... . |
At that price I’ll buy two
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28 ga
Regardless it sure is pretty to look at.
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Beautiful gun. Lots of flowers. I love to have the opportunity to see these guns in detail. Without taking anything away from the wood on this gun, it provides a reference for how good the wood is on so many reproductions.
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No records, too bad. Someone should ask Leroy if the skeet marks are stamped. Not an ugly gun.
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Thank God it has a short stock! :rotf:
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Garry,
I'm happy it only has 26" barrels! Otherwise ? :whistle: |
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Barrel flats
I asked Mark over there to either add some pictures of the barrel flats or send them to me. But, looking at that rib extention fit I can't imagine that the gun was rebarreled or a barrel added by Parker; or Remington for that matter. Nice engraving, but it's too bad that there are not some animals, IMHO.
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If I am not mistaken, I owned and sold that gun around 30 years ago. It came out of a big collection in Bowling Green,Ky. I remember the floral engraving with no game scenes. I sold the gun to a customer in Oregon through a dealer in Pa. The collection had some wonderful guns that I wish I had been able to hold on to. A DE 20 gauge Fox 2 barrel set was one I never should have sold. I am sure we all have guns we wish we could buy again.
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That is how Noel E. Money, elder brother of Harold B. Money (De Shootinest Gent'man), ordered his Pigeon Gun from Parker Bros. in February 1895, "flowers no birds".
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Sousa's AAH was also engraved without birds or animals. My AAHE was engraved with nothing. Well, the engraver snuck in some bit of scroll on the sides of the safety, probably hoped it wouldn't be noticed.
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No animals (cartoon characters) isn't that uncommon. I recently sold an AAHE that IIRC was all floral engraved. Some time ago I sold a BHE live bird gun that was all floral engraved and I have a BHE 20 that's floral engraved.
My AHE 20/28 unfortunately has the deer/stag on the floorplate. I much prefer the floral engraving vs the cartoon characters. |
The ding in the wood at the top of the skeleton butt plate would have made me cry if I owned it.
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Big game animals have no place on a shotgun. Ever seen a high grade rifle with Quail engraved on the floor plate?
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As Rich said no animals is not that uncommon and is often noted in the letter. I prefer animals, little ones without horns that is but I can get along quite well without any animals at all.
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Too late Rich - What’s done is done. :whistle: . |
Unique and well done often looks good to me.
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A lot of variety for the Parker Bros. customer to choose from. The Whit 1 guns --
Attachment 135143 Attachment 135144 Attachment 135145 Then this style No. 7 -- Attachment 135146 |
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I have the pictures of the barrel flats and watertable. I'm just waiting for their permission to post them on here.
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This looks like the fabled Alice Congdon gun. From thhat estate in Duluth Minnesota.It certainly looks good to me, My AA had similar engraving!
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Jim to which gun are you referring?
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Pictures of the barrel flats have been added to the link.
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The skeet markings look very "factory" with one marking encroaching on the barrel weight stamps. Could this be a Runge-DelGrego upgrade? Personally, I don't care, but the price and value would be very different.
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Congdon Mansion!
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And by the way, talk about two characters. They were so much fun!!
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191767 is a 1920 0-frame 28 gauge gun but it’s not in the serialization book and there is no data upon which to base a research letter. Obviously in one of the “missing” books… perhaps in one of the books in the possession of the DelGrego family, eh? This gun was manufactured six years before Skeet was invented and like sixteen years before Remington/Parker were stamping the SKEET IN and SKEET OUT on the flats. We’ll never know what happened with this gun… It sure is pretty though. . |
Jim, in what year was that murder committed?
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Merz people gave me permission to post these pictures. I noticed in the book it shows only 5 28 gauge AAH guns; 4 with 28" barrels and one with a 32" barrel. No guns with 26" barrels. And like someone already said the gun was made prior to skeet being invented. These pictures show, in detail, some issues with the printed numbers on the barrel flats, including the over stamping of the frame size on the barrel lug. See for yourselves. And like I said before that barrel extention fit is very suspect to me.
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