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James Comer 03-17-2025 10:57 AM

First Parker Shotgun
 
New to the forum, just got my membership not a collector just like shooting old guns saw this one couldn’t pass it up should be in my hands by next week, does anyone have any information on serial number 82226, thanks for any information

edgarspencer 03-17-2025 11:59 AM

Book says one of sixteen Grade 3 (D grade) guns with Vulcan steel barrels.12 gauge, 30" barrels, Pistol grip, no options (extractor only)

Bill Murphy 03-17-2025 12:00 PM

Tell us what you know about it. Markings on the rib, grade markings on the water table.

James Comer 03-17-2025 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 427184)
Book says one of sixteen Grade 3 (D grade) guns with Vulcan steel barrels.12 gauge, 30" barrels, Pistol grip, no options (extractor only)

Thanks, 1895?

keavin nelson 03-17-2025 12:03 PM

Welcome to the fold James, you're in the right place.
Your gun is listed as a V3 grade, pistol grip, vulcan steel barrels, 30". Possible your gun is a D grade with Vulcan steel barrels. If it has more than just border engraving, with dogs on both sides, 4 birds on the bottom, it is a D.

James Comer 03-17-2025 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 427185)
Tell us what you know about it. Markings on the rib, grade markings on the water table.

I will try to post a couple pictures tonight, thanks

edgarspencer 03-17-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James Comer (Post 427186)
Thanks, 1895?

sounds about right.

James Comer 03-17-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keavin nelson (Post 427187)
Welcome to the fold James, you're in the right place.
Your gun is listed as a V3 grade, pistol grip, vulcan steel barrels, 30". Possible your gun is a D grade with Vulcan steel barrels. If it has more than just border engraving, with dogs on both sides, 4 birds on the bottom, it is a D.

It is a D with dogs

James Comer 03-17-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 427185)
Tell us what you know about it. Markings on the rib, grade markings on the water table.

Here are a couple photos of markings

Dean Romig 03-17-2025 01:22 PM

One of very few Grade-3 guns made with Vulcan Steel barrels. Most D's had Damascus Steel barrels, as Titanic Steel (the standard 'fluid steel' barrels for the D-grade) was not introduced until 1897 whern Titanic Steel was introduced. NICE find!!





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Dave Noreen 03-17-2025 03:17 PM

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The thing that caught my eye when I saw the listing for that gun was the 0 in the barrel steel mark area on the barrel flat.

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I didn't see a picture in the listing showing the rib markings.

From the earliest Quality VH guns I've recorded, the mark in the barrel steel location is Kf --

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The barrels rib marked Titanic and Acme have a K in the barrel steel location near the front of the right barrel flat. I've recorded these Kf and K markings into the 134xxx serial number range. Beginning in the 135xxx serial number range I begin seeing the V, T, A in a circle markings.

Would love to see the barrel flats of some more of these 1895 vintage Quality DH guns with Vulcan Steel barrels.

edgarspencer 03-17-2025 04:05 PM

From the view of the receiver, the gun appears to be in remarkably nice condition.

James Comer 03-17-2025 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 427206)
The thing that caught my eye when I saw the listing for that gun was the 0 in the barrel steel mark area on the barrel flat.

Attachment 132314

I didn't see a picture in the listing showing the rib markings.

From the earliest Quality VH guns I've recorded, the mark in the barrel steel location is Kf --

Attachment 132315

The barrels rib marked Titanic and Acme have a K in the barrel steel location near the front of the right barrel flat. I've recorded these Kf and K markings into the 134xxx serial number range. Beginning in the 135xxx serial number range I begin seeing the V, T, A in a circle markings.

Would love to see the barrel flats of some more of these 1895 vintage Quality DH guns with Vulcan Steel barrels.

I will have the gun in my hands by the end of next week will be glad to take all the photos you want

James Comer 03-17-2025 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 427212)
From the view of the receiver, the gun appears to be in remarkably nice condition.

I believe it was a early restoration

allen newell 03-18-2025 04:55 PM

Early resto or not, it's very nice. Shoot it and enjoy it.

James Comer 03-18-2025 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 427271)
Early resto or not, it's very nice. Shoot it and enjoy it.


I am sure going to enjoy shooting it

Reggie Bishop 03-18-2025 05:49 PM

Welcome and congrats on a nice 1st Parker!

Bill Murphy 03-18-2025 06:56 PM

The "zero" barrel flat marking should be no mystery since these were the first black barrel guns in low grades and the official marking had not been determined. We haven't seen the rib marking yet, but the early ones I have seen were marked Vulcan. Someone soon determined that the barrel flat marking would be "V".

James Comer 03-18-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 427276)
The "zero" barrel flat marking should be no mystery since these were the first black barrel guns in low grades and the official marking had not been determined. We haven't seen the rib marking yet, but the early ones I have seen were marked Vulcan. Someone soon determined that the barrel flat marking would be "V".

I will get you a photo of the barrel rib when I receive it, I am just glad that my first Parker is such a interesting one

Mike Koneski 03-18-2025 08:45 PM

Beautiful first Parker! Welcome to Parker Universe. I hope you shoot the heck out of that gun. :cool:

Phillip Carr 03-18-2025 11:54 PM

This was the first Parker I owned. Great DH. Do a search on here using the SN. It should pull up some information. Great gun. I shot a lot of quail with it as well as dove.


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