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Tracy Pellett 12-23-2024 10:48 AM

AHE pistol grip cap
 
What material is the surround of the gold pistol grip cap ? Are these available ?
How is the cap attached to the stock ? I am having a custom stock made and want to keep the original stock as is. Thanks for your help. Tracy Pellett

Randy G Roberts 12-23-2024 11:05 AM

Grades 5 and higher have a screw under the trigger tang that holds the cap on. They have also been seen with a screw in the cap itself. As for the material I do not know.

Randy G Roberts 12-23-2024 11:08 AM

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An under the tang example.

Tracy Pellett 12-23-2024 11:20 AM

Measuring a VH pistol cap it looks like it’s the same outside diameter and the same material . Are repo of those available ? Randy thanks for your reply . My serial number is 3718 above your gun .

Randy G Roberts 12-23-2024 11:26 AM

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Don't know about availability but I would think the odds are slim of finding one. They can be made as evidenced by this one which was made for an upgrade project.

Brian Dudley 12-23-2024 01:08 PM

The cap is the normal bakelite cap with a gold inlay put into it.

The inlay is riveted to the cap with two pins.

Earlier guns used an expensed screw to retain it to the stock. A brass machine screw.

Later guns had a post with the screw from under the guard as Randy shows above.


Anything that is used would have to be custom made.

If your stock maker does not know this, then they have not seen enough Parkers.

Tracy Pellett 12-23-2024 03:15 PM

Randy , thanks for the pictures . I took the cap off mine and understand how it is put together.
Brian , thanks for sharing your knowledge . And you are correct my stock makers are not familiar with Parkers but they can have me a stock in 16 weeks which at my age is more important . I’m hoping I can get a correct cap made to make it look like an “A’. Any advice or help I can get is greatly appreciated. Tracy

CraigThompson 12-23-2024 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts (Post 421767)
Don't know about availability but I would think the odds are slim of finding one. They can be made as evidenced by this one which was made for an upgrade project.

Is that on one of the 34” guns you had put together ?

Randy G Roberts 12-23-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 421781)
Is that on one of the 34” guns you had put together ?

No Craig it is not. It's on the 32" Washburn upgrade to an A1S.

CraigThompson 12-23-2024 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts (Post 421783)
No Craig it is not. It's on the 32" Washburn upgrade to an A1S.

That’s the one that you sent me the letter and it was supposedly made to go to the Philippines originally ?

Randy G Roberts 12-23-2024 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 421794)
That’s the one that you sent me the letter and it was supposedly made to go to the Philippines originally ?

Yes, to the Manila Trading and Supply Co.

Stan Hillis 12-23-2024 11:01 PM

JMPO but the ones with the exposed screw head look more appropriate. The style with the post and hidden capture screw looks too aftermarket to me, original or not.

Opinions like mine are likely part of the reason I'm not into "Originality Collecting".

Tracy Pellett 12-24-2024 07:11 AM

I haven’t seen a gold cap with a screw in it , that would be a lot easier to make then one on my gun . Thanks Tracy

Dean Romig 12-24-2024 07:31 AM

That early style center screw was prone to backing out… ask Dave Suponski.





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Randy G Roberts 12-24-2024 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Pellett (Post 421806)
I haven’t seen a gold cap with a screw in it , that would be a lot easier to make then one on my gun . Thanks Tracy

Look at pages 316 & 318 in TPS. There are most certainly other examples in there as well.

Brian Dudley 12-24-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 421807)
That early style center screw was prone to backing out… ask Dave Suponski.





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I find that hard to believe. Every one I have encountered was pretty well held in place with green oxidation since the screw is brass. And the screws are machine screws, not wood screws. And they are longer than the typical wood screw that holds the standard caps on. Maybe his was stripped out. Just because it happens once does not make it prone to happening.

Brian Dudley 12-24-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Pellett (Post 421806)
I haven’t seen a gold cap with a screw in it , that would be a lot easier to make then one on my gun . Thanks Tracy



See here a photo.

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Bill Murphy 12-24-2024 09:30 AM

My AHE Trap has two pins in drilled holes on the left and right sides of the cap. It isn't original but looks good and the pins have never backed out in the forty years I have owned the gun.

Randy G Roberts 12-24-2024 09:31 AM

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And another on an AHE that I believe to be original.

Dean Romig 12-24-2024 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 421815)
I find that hard to believe. Every one I have encountered was pretty well held in place with green oxidation since the screw is brass. And the screws are machine screws, not wood screws. And they are longer than the typical wood screw that holds the standard caps on. Maybe his was stripped out. Just because it happens once does not make it prone to happening.


Well Dave's may have been a replacement as it was only about 1/4" long...





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David C Porter 12-24-2024 01:32 PM

Any stockmaker worth his salt should be able to make one. Make the base out of black ebony, enlay the gold oval, then remove oval & drill counter sinked hole (pin between grip cap & stock to keep alignment) then screw grip cap base on, then glue gold oval in place.

Tracy Pellett 12-24-2024 07:35 PM

Thank you all for your pictures and suggestions. A lot of good info . Tracy

Larry Stauch 12-25-2024 10:48 AM

A grade grip cap
 
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This is the one on my 1891 A grade 12 gauge.
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