Receiver repairable?
 

I have a Trojan with an enlarged firing pin hole along with a deformed firing pin. I wonder if anyone has seen this and what is done to repair the problem.

Triple clicking on your last image, I have to say that is the worst erosion I have seen. If the remainder of the gun is good, then laser welding the breach face and remachining it is probably the way to go.
Hammers are around from people here, or Ebay.

Thanks for weighing in on this one, it’s not pretty but everything else is tight and operational.
I suppose it’s a matter of someone in the southern Wisconsin area able take a look and do this work..
Any recommendations?
Thanks again for the help!

Check with Dennis Potter in Big Bend. 262/378-7540 or 262/662-9990. dcmpotter@gmail.com

Thank you phil.

Since the hammer is the firing pin, wouldn't a replacement hammer work since it does not rotate in the hole? As long as a primer was not pierced (using American factory loads), I would think it would be ok?

The hammer you mention did pierce the primer once. Scary situation and thankful I’m right handed and it was the left side at that. And I sure felt like a complete fool for letting that happen as well. That was the last time this Parker was fired. I’m curious to find out if it’s worth having repaired since it’s not a show piece. I’d like it to function properly
Thanks again for all of the advise and recommendations.

We haven't seen a picture of the firing pin yet. What is actually the problem? Will the gun not fire? If the primers are pierced, try a different brand of primer or shell. Some primers are softer than others.

It won't be a prohibitively costly repair. I say get kit fixed before you fire it again. The blowback into the frame from a pierced primer can blow out a chunk of the head of the stock.





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Glenn Fewless,(apologies to him if I slaughtered the spelling off his last name, I'm too lazy to go look up his last receipt) former president of the Riflemakers Guild, is the top Laser Welding gunsmith. That is who Breck Gorman uses, and he did a phenominal job on a set of D4 barrels for me.

OP in post number 7 says the primer pierced one time. Is that amount of erosion consistent with that? Along with the firing pin hole being badly eroded also along the rim edge and whole face.I have had pierced primers that did no damage like that. It seems to me the damage is too severe for a one time thing with no other damage.

Exactly, Dan. Old, corrosive primer residue, not cleaned, is like cancer to steel.

Thank you Edgar, never thought of that. It sat for a while eating away at it.

Dean, that’s what happened. The blowback blew a piece of the stock off.
The stock was repaired but I do t have enough knowledge about the hammer and workings of doubles to know what’s ok to live with and what needs to be addressed.

This gun sat for a very long time, I received from an old friend who passed away about 15 years ago from old age. It sat under his stairs for many years. And It hasn’t been shot for about 8 years but I want to get it looked at and assessed by someone who knows, so thanks for everything you fellas are adding.

It sure looks like it happened a lot more than once.




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Your probably right about it happening more than once but most of that I would agree is from corrosion sitting with a shell in place for a very long time.

I admit that's the worst erosion I have ever seen. However we would still like to see the face of the firing pin.

The best I have of that is in post #14 above. Thanks.

Thanks, I see it. I see it, but I don't understand it. I think, as you do, that a shell sat in the chamber for a long time, probably with some help from water or other corrosive. Personally, I would be shooting that gun with no repairs. It's a shotgun, not a high power rifle.

That’s what I was thinking when I fired the right side and it blew the stock apart. No injuries, but it made me stop and think about life and my decisions for a second.

Not over thinking it does give a bit of perspective on the fact that replacing the hammer/firing pin may be all that is needed.

It can all be fixed with laser welding.

The shell rim ring etched into the breech face is quite severe, and puzzling.
Obviously, it was caused by a shell, but how? Was a shell left in the right barrel for a long time? Was there some interaction of the corrosive primer material and the brass head of the shell. This is a reach, but was the gun left leaning against any electrical component? I say this because it appears as though there was some galvanic action taking place. Can you see why old engineers are so anal?

Before I forget, here is the contact info for Glenn Fewless. WI too:

Mook Machine Works
26721 E. Main Drive
Waterford, WI 53185
262-534-5154
gfewless@tds,net

Thanks a ton for the contact, I will follow up with him.
I wish I knew the cause too, anything’s possible.

A now deceased friend was over at the Gunclub a few years back shooting a Fox Sterlingworth with Gaugemates in it shooting 410’s . He pierced a primer and as you said blew a chunk out .

Since, the gun you have is a shooter I would find a used receiver or better yet a complete action and refit the barrels as necessary. In my view it would cheaper and safer.

Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade but you will NEVER recover any money you invest in that unfortunate Trojan.





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Maybe recovering money put into the gun isn't his priority. It isn't even a shooter now, but, from experience, I can say that provided the barrels are safe, and the repair to the stock head is sound, the gun can be put into shooting condition. The weld buildup of the breech face will not be a substantial investment. Careful dressing down the welds, back to the the original breech surface is somewhat time consuming, but not overly complex.
The welding that Glenn Fewless did for me wasn't an enormous deposit, but dozens of tiny pits were addressed, and more than met with Breck Gorman's approval. I doubt the amount necessary to fix this Trojan won't come near the $800 Glen charged for his work. Between Breck and Glen I was delighted to bring a beautiful 1 frame BH back to life.

Plus, sometimes things are more valuable to a person than the money they're worth. Just sayin'...

Absolutely right Phil

I agree Edgar and Phil. I was just stating a fact in case Tobias hadn’t considered that angle.





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Tobias, I think 99.9 % of this forum would have made the investment that Edgar did in his BH. However, I doubt that 1% of this forum would do the same for your Trojan.

Craig and Dean, see Tobias' original post #15. The gun was given to him by an old friend. It won't be prohibitively expensive to repair. I think more than 1% would repair a gift from an old friend for a modest investment. I doubt "what can I get for it?" is foremost on his mind. Sometimes, the intrinsic value trumps the cash value.

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That’s why I’m asking the questions..
Thanks for the input.
None of it is wasted.
I’m considering the all options.
If it can be made shootable for 3-400 it’s something I’m very interested in.
I’m not looking to restore. It belonged to a friend of mine and like having it around.
If that 3-400 is parts alone.
Maybe I’ll wait until I can spend a bit more.
Or I’ll look at replacing the hammer myself.
I’m a carpenter and I also like to work on watches and know how to work slowly when it’s important and precisely with the right tool.
I’ve reached out to both suggested gunsmiths and plan to have it looked at before the end of the year.
Thanks again for all of the comments PGCA is a great place for advice all around!

O.K. Edgar you win, even though I am not sure what you would do if the gun was given to you by a close friend. In my case I would mount it securely on my outhouse wall on full display for all to see and then take 5 $100 bills and go to the local gun show to procure a serviceable 12 ga. Trojan. Tobias no offense intended, Craig.

I just had visions of Richard Flanders. RIP

That should be the title of my next post.
“Point me towards that serviceable 500.00 Parker.”
None taken. :cheers:

Edgar's recommendation for Glen is spot on. He repaired a similar condition on an English gun face for me. Excellent job!