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BHE .410 at Little John's

i wish i was rich as old king solomen....that little gun would be mine....all these good ones turn up when your broke....nice gun thanks jack..... charlie

I have a feeling that gun might surpass their pre-auction estimate by just a smidgeon. :corn: And when the dust settles Little John will be looking to high-five anybody that comes near him.

Wish he had a buy now ,from $3000.00 to $ 6000.00 !:cool:

You guys are kidding right......
 

Everyone wants double triggers so just leave that one for me. I am in at say 2100.....:rolleyes::rolleyes: Best, Paul

A very pretty gun alright. It will be fun to watch that one roll over. What is the current exchange rate between the $$$ and the $midgeon ??

With the engraving on the barrel it looks like a AAHE!

Harry

What a nice Repro, eh? Gorgeous!

Now, not to be picky but Winchester folks did not perfectly index the screws. Gotta knock a few $midgeons off for that.

Im week..I love them little 410ers....Placed my best price im willing to pay...under Big-K, wish me luck.... probably will fall short...The next bid jumps to 12500.00 + 15.5% fee's,,, Now thats a lotta money! There are some nice old colt S.A.A. in this lot!!! Double triggers are KING!!! will need a conversion set....would I really shoot a gun like this....Yup!!! Think about all them original well used Hi grade Parkers we see show up....didn't get that way in a box!!!! Ahhh its fun to dream@%&!* thanks all SXS ohio...(-:

That .410 looks like the one I ordered in 1988, but I ordered double triggers. Kenny, are you ordering on the internet auction site? I think there is an added fee for bidding that way. There are guns I would bid on, but I am not up to the red tape of absentee bidding.

Yes...they will add 15.5% to win amount plus ship/ins. Im hi bid at 10K...looking good? unless it jumps to 12500.00 with the next bid.....that makes my bid of 10K=11500.00 with buyer fee...thats tops for me!!!!, Im O.K. with that but no more! Next bidder can have her!!!! at 14250.00 ish...SXS ohio...(-:

Hang in there Kenny that is tough one to find, You can always sell another gun if you pay a bit too much....I am cheering for you ! Best,Paul

Kenny, I don't know when the auction ends, but your bid is way less than the gun is worth. Some of those guns have sold in the twenties. This is my dream gun, but I don't have time to fool with it, but I think you should. Go for it. Go up to the low twenties without any fear of losing money.

This is the low point of some gun prices, in my opinion. If our friends don't benefit from this phenomenon in this auction, too bad.

Kenny, keep us informed.

Gun was sold for 11K to floor bidder.....If it would have been double triggers I would have bid more....This was a very good buy at anyrate! I would prefer a B grade repro with DT-PG in 20 gauge and add a set of 16 barrels to it.....now we are talking! My most faverit and usefull gauge is 16. These guns can be very light but pack the punch of a 12...(-: The normal weight for a repro 16 DT-PG-SF is 6lbs-4oz sweet... SXS ohio

Kenny I bid on several guns there. Do you know how I can get the auction results?

619 10DG1- 462 WEBLEY #728057 1.00 sealed -closed- Absentee Sealed Bid
368 11BF-13 Winchester Mdl. 23LD #LD-246E 1.00 sealed -closed- Absentee Sealed Bid
240 11DG2-24 Krieghoff #1036 1.00 sealed -closed- Absentee Sealed Bid
1099 11DG2-25 Parker 3 bbl set #28-02074 1.00 sealed -closed- Absentee Sealed Bid
645 11DG2-26 Parker cased 1.00 sealed -closed- Absentee Sealed Bid


Thanks,

Miike

I had the 410 book marked and it showed the sold price....might try and go directly to little johns sight and look there...? thnaks SXS ohio

Here is the link to the .410. Is this the same page you are looking at. Because this blind hog can't find the sold price if it is. Thanks!

http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...num=14&lang=En

Mike

Here ya go Mike.

http://www.icollector.com/Parker-by-...26-b_i10488354

Kenny,

IMO you should have pulled the trigger on this one. This is one of the rarer repro's and it sold at a very good price. A couple of three years down the road you will be kicking yourself for not popping the extra couple of grand.

All the best,

Paul

Thanks Paul! That was what I needed.

I went through the other guns I bid. I may have gotten the Webley and Scott 28 gauge. My bid on it was the same amount as the winning bid but it said "floor" on the icollector website you sent me the link to. Guess I will know in a day or two.

Thanks again Paul. Thanks Kenny.

Best,

Mike

Now Bill, "...my dream gun..."? What about all that jabbin you've given me on .410's?:draw::biglaugh:

I was out of town and just didn't go through the effort of absentee bidding. In my opinion, the gun could have sold for twice the winning bid and been a decent deal.

Kenny were you the winner???

No ...floor bidder got it for 11K plus fee's 1700.00 = 12700.00 approx. A very good buy....

"Good buy", maybe?????? It may also show that the current market is saying "good bye" to gun values over all. Scary even......

Bill

The last couple of Littlejohn's Auctions have been Robert Petersen's gift to shooters, collectors and dealers who gave him a good life. In addition to the outrageous guns that were recently sold at auction for reasonable prices, he donated the Invincibles and other guns to the National Firearms Museum some time back, and recently donated 450 more items to the NFM. The NFM staff was allowed to pick and choose the 450 items. The latest Littlejohn's pickings were the "leftovers".

Looks like everyone will get another crack at the "bargain gun".

http://www.gunsinternational.com/det...m?id=100189507

Bill

Nothing like being modest about the asking price. I don't mind a man making a profit for his investment. But in this case it simply takes my breath away.

I felt the gun went fairly cheap at the auction, but in no way do I think it's worth the current asking price.

The provenance of Bob Peterson is one thing to all of us at this time. Give it another generation into the future and they will be asking "Bob Who"

I understand buying/selling/collecting, but it seems to me this happens all too often. It's hard for people who want to buy a gun to keep and use when there are so many people buying them up to make a profit. How many times does a gun sell +$500-1000? before it ends up in someone's safe for good. I can't tell you how many times I've missed out at an auction and found the gun forsale for two grand higher than it sold a week later. I know it's a business, if you don't have money you shouldn't play, blah blah, it's frustrating. My two cents, don't mean to hurt any feelings.

Chris

Paul, Petersen provenance is less important than the fact that Petersen's guns are the cream of the crop in some cases. Visit the NFM and you will wonder how he accumulated his guns. It seems like one man couldn't possibly do it. I have not seen the Petersen Automotive Museum, but it is probably the same "cream of the crop" type of collection.

Bill,

I totally agree with you about Bob Peterson. He was a one of a kind collector and gentleman. He also had the financial where with all to purchase the best & most special of everything. This BHE .410 repro being one of them. It's quite possibly the nicest and one of the rarest of the Parker repro's.

The point that I was trying to make was that Bob is very well known to us now, but how many will truly remember him a generation from now?

As far as the gun goes:
We all know what it sold for at auction just a few weeks ago and now it's the seller that is making a big deal out of it being ordered by Bob Peterson for his collection. When I read the ad I took it that the seller thinks the gun is worth over double what he paid for it because of the provenance. IMO the seller is just fishing hoping to find the right buyer that doesn't know or care that the gun was just hammered at auction for less than half of the asking price.

What is an acceptable profit margin and where does the line get drawn for being ripped off? Only each of as indivduals can answer that question for themselves. If someone buy's this gun at the asking price and is good with it so am I & I wish them the best.

One thing for sure though is the internet has changed the game considerably. A few years ago we wouldn't have know instantly the auction sale price or would we be having this discussion about it.

I just wish one of the members here would have won the auction and been able to put the gun in his collection. Then we would have been congratulating him for winning it, rather than talking about someone trying to hit a home run profit wise.

I agree with everything you say and the collector who keeps his nose to the ground is in the best position to keep up with the moneychangers.

It's the same buyer/seller of this .410 that has the Duck Stamp Special for sale at a cool $60G. If he should eventually get his asking prices for these two guns you're looking at $86,000.00! Contemplate that for a moment . . . who'da thunk it for a couple of Repros?:eek:

I believe that as long as the seller is not misrepresenting the guns he should ask for them what he thinks he can get for them. If he makes a mistake at an auction and pays too much for a gun he will probably be the one to take the financial whipping. If he makes a good deal at an auction I don't see that it obligates him to sell at less than he can get for the gun.

I have owned a small business for twenty nine years and have fielded many questions from individuals about prices being high. When it came time to make Friday payroll or pay the note at the bank I noticed I was always alone and on my own. The selling price is independent of what the product cost the seller in my opinion.

Best,

Mike

Mike,
You hit the nail on the head, I can't disagree with you. In my thick Polish head, I think it's more important that these guns find good homes where they can be enjoyed instead for bought and sold for profit.

Mike, Don't forget the tax collector.

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Very well said !!