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American Arms Fox Model
I bought this "swing out" Fox model recently because I had never seen this action type before. The hand fitting it took to make these is incredible. This gun has a single line patent date. I have found some online with earlier serial numbers with a 2 line patent date. I have found info about the company and this model, but I would like to determine when it was made, if possible. I appreciate any info you can provide.
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A few more to show how the action works
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Thank you Dave - I have seen that action once before several years ago… but I don’t remember where.
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Dave, does the gun fire? I was wondering what is going on in that left firing pin hole.
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Looks like the firing pin return spring is missing or broken. One pin is retracted and one not. The top of the pins are protruding different lengths. Should be a relative easy fix. My have to find a spring that fits or make one.
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There was a good article on George H. Fox's American Arms Co. in The American Rifleman, April 1970. There was an article on some of the George H. Fox side-swing hammer doubles by William Furnish and James A. Nelson in the Winter 1994, The Double Gun Journal. I have a reproduction American Arms Co. catalog, offered years ago by Dr. William Paul Smith's PRP Americana, from I believe the late 1870s. It calls the gun the Model of 1877. It shows the gun made in 12- and 10-gauge in 11 grades from $50 to $300. Their 12-gauges were said to be chambered for 2 5/8-inch shells, and their 10-gauges for 2 3/4-inch shells. They also offered heavy 12-gauges built on the 10-gauge frame, chambered for 3-inch shells. Pretty sure in those days it would have been for brass shells.
Later, American Arms Co. built side-cocker single- and double-barrel shotguns -- Attachment 130010 Attachment 130008 Attachment 130009 and a higher quality hammerless double designed by A.E. Whitmore -- Attachment 130006 Attachment 130007 They also built a large line of low-priced pistols and revolvers. George H. Fox died in 1901 amid efforts to move the company first to Milwaukee and then Bluffton, Alabama. Some of the Whitmore guns have Bluffton - Ala. butt plates -- Attachment 130011 After George died the equipment of the factory, most already packed up for moving, was sold to Marlin. Taxes on the Bluffton property continued to be paid until 1915?!? |
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Never mind. This gun is a 10 guage. Dropped a couple 3 inch 12 guage shells in the chambers and they were a little loose. No wonder it weighs so much. |
A very cool old gun ! Iv'e never seen one. Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you Drew! Those are excellent.
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Hey Drew, I see you are quite knowledgeable about damascus. Any insights about my barrels? Or do you need better pictures? Thanks!
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I see the price list Dr. Drew posted is dated Feb. 10, 1881, and that rebounding locks had become "standard." The price list in my 1877 catalog has rebounding locks $3 extra on the grades up through 6.
Attachment 130027 My take is that your gun is a No. 6 with the extras of a pistol grip and rebounding locks. Here is the page from the catalog that states the guns are chambered for brass or paper cases and mentions the chamber lengths. Attachment 130028 |
Thank you for those additional pages. I'm guessing my gun is an early one due to the single line patent date, but I found at least one other one with a lower serial number with the 2 line dates. Any thoughts on that?
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